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Marantz 2500/2600 Toroidal Transformer Guide

Manual de serviço sobre o Sansui para manutenção para técnicos e hobistas.

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Marantz 2500/2600 Toroidal Transformer Guide

Manual de serviço sobre o Sansui para manutenção para técnicos e hobistas.

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TOROIDAL TRANSFORMER

For MARANTZ models 2500/2600

Eng. Antonio Pelli Neto

Marantz 2600 and Sansui G9000 (from my collection)

Service manuals for Marantz receivers are famous for their lack of information, or providing information that is
incorrect and/or incomplete. In the specific case of Marantz models 2500 and 2600, the manuals additionally
contain misleading information about the capacity and positioning of some electrolytic capacitors, and they do not
contain important data on voltage and current for the toroidal transformers accompanying the products. These
transformers were also famous for burning out, which presented problems in the construction of new units.

The purpose of this text is to allow electronic technicians, or even Marantz 2500/2600 owners with dead toroidal
transformers, to recover your receivers. Although my training is in Civil and Mechanical engineering, my hobby is
recovery and restoration of electronic equipment, especially equipment considered "vintage". I do not work as an
electronic technician, nor do I provide maintenance services for electronic equipment. This, as I’ve said, is just a
hobby, although I've been involved in it for over 40 years. So, I take no responsibility for the information provided
here, however I have successfully utilized it in the recovery of my own devices.

A POSSIBLE ERROR DETECTED IN SERVICE MANUAL

The Marantz 2500 and 2600 service manuals display the following diagram for connecting the toroidal
transformer:

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In the above schematic, the toroidal transformer has two secondaries for supplying the power amplifiers (one for
each channel) and three additional windings to supply the other components, which are connected to the P800
board. Below is a photo of this board:

Note that this board has its original capacitors, as they hadn't yet been replaced at the time of the photo. In the
circuit shown in the Service Manual, the transformer is connected to the board using the two connectors below:

If the schematic was correct, then the connections would have the color sequence indicated below:

Green
Green
Blue
Blue
Blue
Green
Yellow
Gray
Brown
Purple
Colors in the sequence

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However, I have two machines, a 2600 and a 2500 - both came with the following color sequence installed:

Blue
Blue
Green
Green
Purple
Yellow
Brown
Blue
Gray A quick search on the Internet
Green shows the colors in this same
sequence.

Considering the colors on the connectors and the power circuit of the P800 board, it is easy to see that the yellow
wire is connected to "Ground" (earth) and therefore will now be considered the CT (Center Tap) of this side:

Yellow (C.T.)

The P800 board provides DC (direct current) and AC (alternating current) for all components of the receiver,
except for the power amplifier, which has its own side for each channel (L and R). The circuits are shown below:

Dial lamp
panel

Oscilloscope

Tuner,
preamp &
phono

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In this circuit (P800), there is no indication of full voltage. The J804 connector provides DC and AC currents to the
oscilloscope, as shown below:

6.3V A.C. for the C.R.T.


filament, plus 576V D.C.

In the above schematic, the conclusion is that the J801 connector provides 7V AC for filaments (in green) and 8V
AC (blue), for the panel lights.

The J802 connector must therefore provide AC voltages to be rectified and generate 576V in DC, as well as 180V
and 41.4V DC supplies. Therefore, the pinout is as follows (all voltages in AC):

Blue
8V
Blue
Green
6.3V
Green
Purple 430V
Yellow C.T.
Brown 160V
Blue 160V
Gray 30V
Green 30V

The 180V circuit is used to adjust the focus of the oscilloscope, ranging from 50V to 250V. This circuit is derived
from the Marantz 4400.

The current of each circuit is indicated on the board. Thus, the analysis is complete this side of the toroidal
transformer. For the amplifier, the currents and the voltages are listed on the next page:

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Toroid Specifications – Marantz 2600

Blue
Color AC DC A Blue (8v)
Blue Lamps 8 - 2.0
Green Filament 6.3 - 0.5
Green (6.3v)
(8v)
Purple Oscilloscope 430 -576 0.5
Yellow CT Purple (430v)
Brown Oscilloscope 160 180 0.5 Yellow (CT)
Blue Oscilloscope 160 180 0.5 (8v)
Grey Receiver 30 +/-40 1.5 Brown (160v)
Green Receiver 30 +/-40 1.5 (8v)
Blue (160v)
(8v)
Grey (30v)
Primary
(8v)
Green (30v)
(8v) 120 VAC

Color AC DC A
Amplifier Orange (70v)
Orange 70 94.2 10 (6.3v) (8v)
White (CT)
White CT
(8v)
Orange 70 94.2 Orange (70v)
Red 70 94.2 10
(6.3v) (8v)
Black CT
Red 70 94.2

Red (70v)
(8v)
Black (CT)
(8v)
Red (70v) Red
(8v)
8v Blue
Blue
6.3v Green
Green

430v Purple

C.T. Yellow

160v Brown
160v Blue

30v Grey
30v Green

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Now that our toroid specifications are ready, we have two options: rewind the original transformer or have a new
one built. Both options have their advantages and disadvantages. Rewinding the old transformer requires a good
technician who knows toroidal transformers, and is careful and be patient enough to remove the existing resin
and reuse the same core and housing. The advantage is to keep the original look. The second option is simpler
because the current techniques for the construction of these transformers are widely known and depend only
upon finding a company to manufacture one. The disadvantage is in no longer having an original appearance. The
second option was the one chosen. Below is a photo of the new transformer already mounted:

New transformer

Here are new photos indicating the voltages:

8v – Panel lamps

6.3v – C.R.T. Filament

430v – Purple (replaced with


orange wire here)

C.T. – Yellow

160v – Blue and brown

30v – Gray and green (gray wire


replaced with green wire here)

Now begins the final part of the process. The reassembly of the apparatus and measurements of voltages, both in
AC and in DC. Measurements should be taken at the points indicated below:

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AC - 6.3V between the orange wire and brown. 8v (AC) between the
green & black wires
DC - (+ -) 576v between the orange & black
wires and brown & black wires.

Reassembly continues with the base of the transformer and the power module:

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View of the new transformer and electrolytic capacitors of the power module, connected to the P800 board:

Aluminum base for


mounting the new
transformer.

The transformer base is reattached to the receiver, using the same screws and connections, plus the aluminum
base for the new transformer:

Finalizing the connections (soft start and thermostats):

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Last check before pressing the "Power" button: (now a nervous moment - will there be a burning smell? Will we
"roast" a component?)

Now comes the crucial moment: "May destiny be kind! Time to close the eyes and connect ... ”

As the French would say, 'Voilà'. It worked... now we'll check the other circuits.

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Tuning FM Radio:

Turning on the oscilloscope and making final adjustments. Everything appears to be in order.

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For the Marantz 2500, just change the voltage of the amplifier outputs. The transformer schematic is below:

Toroid Specifications - Marantz 2500

Blue
Color AC DC A Blue (8v)
Blue Lamps 8 - 2.0
Green Filament 6.3 - 0.5
Green (6.3v)
(8v)
Purple Oscilloscope 430 -576 0.5
Yellow CT Purple (430v)
Brown Oscilloscope 160 180 0.5 Yellow (CT)
Blue Oscilloscope 160 180 0.5 (8v)
Grey Receiver 30 +/-40 1.5 Brown (160v)
Green Receiver 30 +/-40 1.5 (8v)
Blue (160v)
(8v)
Grey (30v)
Primary
(8v)
Green (30v)
(8v) 120 VAC

Orange (70v)
(6.3v) (8v)
White (CT)
(8v)
Orange (70v)
Color AC DC A
(6.3v) (8v)
Amplifier
Orange 65 87.6 10
White CT
Red (70v)
Orange 65 87.6
(8v)
Red 65 87.6 10
Black (CT)
Black CT
(8v)
Red 65 87.6
Red (70v) Red
(8v)

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And photos of my Marantz 2500 recovery:

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Common questions

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Rewinding the original transformer maintains the original look, which is crucial for vintage equipment enthusiasts; however, it requires a skilled technician to carefully remove resin and reuse the original core and housing . Having a new transformer built is generally simpler and relies on widely known techniques, but it does not preserve the original appearance, which might detract from the vintage value .

The accuracy of restoring Marantz 2500/2600 receivers is heavily influenced by the color coding in the connector diagram because incorrect color sequences in the service manual can lead to incorrect connections, potentially damaging components. For example, the service manual's incorrect color sequence for the toroidal transformer connections can make it challenging for technicians to connect the power supply correctly, thereby affecting the overall functionality of the receiver .

Challenges include potential damage due to incorrect electrical configurations, which can arise from misleading capacitor capacity and positioning information, and the incomplete or incorrect data on voltage and current for toroidal transformers. Without proper documentation, technicians must rely on their expertise or additional communication, such as online forums, to confirm configurations, which increases restoration time and risk .

The yellow wire is considered the Center Tap because it is connected to "Ground" (earth), making it a neutral reference point for the AC power circuit on the P800 board. This designation is based on the color sequence and circuit board connections that ensure proper voltage distribution across the circuit .

The P800 board in Marantz 2500/2600 receivers is crucial for providing DC and AC to most components except the power amplifier, which is separately powered. It takes voltages from the toroidal transformer and distributes them accordingly, such as 7V AC for filaments, 8V AC for panel lights, and various DC voltages (576V, 180V, 41.4V) for other functions like the oscilloscope and the tuner, preamp, and phono circuits .

Considerations include proper alignment of connections and accurate voltage testing across points such as the panel lamps, CRT filament, and oscilloscope circuits. Risks involve the potential for electrical shorts or insufficient current causing component failure. Final testing is a critical phase to ensure the restored receiver operates within its original specifications without overheating or component stress leading to future failures during regular operation .

Incorrect assembly of the power module, especially post transformer replacement, can lead to mismatched voltage connections causing failure to power up or damage, such as blown fusibles or burnt-out circuits. Since the P800 board connects multiple sensitive circuits, incorrect connections may result in insufficient or over-voltage, jeopardizing the sensitive components like the oscilloscope and preamp functions .

Understanding the voltage listing is crucial because each part of the toroidal transformer supplies specific voltages critical for the functionality of different receiver components, like 160V and 430V for the oscilloscope. Errors in these voltages can lead to improper operation or damage to specific components, particularly those with tight voltage tolerances, such as the CRT and oscilloscope .

Incorrect voltage specifications can lead to improper operation or permanent damage to components, including transformers and the broader circuitry. Specific voltage requirements for components like the oscilloscope—it needs 576V DC for proper functioning—are critical, and deviations due to faulty manual data could lead to failures or irreparable burning of components .

Opting for a new transformer during Marantz 2600 restoration simplifies the process as current construction techniques are well-known, ensuring reliability in operation without depending on skilled manual labor to achieve a standard quality. It eliminates the challenge associated with removing and reusing old materials, reducing complexities in achieving functional equivalency albeit at the cost of losing original aesthetics .

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