Rapture Timing: Post-Tribulation Insights
Rapture Timing: Post-Tribulation Insights
The oldest position regarding when the rapture of the church will occur is the 'pos-
"tribunals". In fact, that has been the only position of the Christian church for 19 of its 20 centuries.
of history including the Protestant reformers of the 16th century (16). It was not until the mid
from the 19th century (19), after 1830 and at the beginning of the 20th century (20), especially after
World War II when a very popular belief spread among some groups
evangelicals that the church would not go through the great final tribulation. This leads us to wonder if
the church was wrong for so long about such an important topic as this or if it
They are mistaken those who have brought a new doctrine. The following is a study developed with the
purpose of carefully investigating the Biblical text in relation to the doctrine of the rapture
from the church, commonly referred to as 'the rapture'. Much has been debated in the last 100 years in
as for whether this long-awaited event will happen before the period known as the great tribulation
(Pre-tribulation), in the midst of the great tribulation (Mid-tribulation), or at the end of the tribulation
(Post-tribulation). Through this short but detailed and precise biblical study we have understood
that the church has gone through, is going through, and will go through tribulation, that is what the Bible teaches us. I ask you
take your Bible, read carefully and analyze for yourself. Many live thinking that
they will have a second chance after Christ comes but the truth is that the only
the opportunity that exists is the one we have now. "Today is the day of salvation, if you hear today His..."
voice, do not harden your hearts.
Content:
· Introduction
· Who are the Chosen Ones?
· No one knows the day or the hour
· When will the Son of Perdition (Antichrist) manifest?
· The Second Coming of Christ
· The Great Tribulation
· The End of the World
· The Antichrist will overcome the Saints
· The resurrection of the Dead
· The Coming of Christ will be after the Tribulation
· Revitalization and Transformation
· The Parable of the Tares
· The Final Trumpet
· The Parable of the Ten Virgins. There is no more opportunity!
· The Teachings of Paul
· Who are the saints that come with Jesus?
· The Teachings of Jesus
· Explanation of verses that are misunderstood
· And much more!
INTRODUCTION
The Christians throughout history have believed and continue to believe in the promise that Jesus Christ will return.
to the earth with power and glory. We believe that His eternal kingdom will be established by Him in the new earth and
the new heavens and that there will be days of great eternal blessing, incomparable justice and peace. Also
we understand through the Scriptures that the Coming of Christ will put an end to the days of the great
tribulation and it will end the world as we know it today and that the punishment of God will be upon the
earth in the days of the end. His coming will mark the end of human government and will begin the government
celestial of the Kingdom of God or the Kingdom of Heaven as the evangelist calls it in
Matthew. It will then be the end of this century (age or era), as described by Jesus Christ in Matthew 24;
Mark 13; Luke 13:35-48; 21. Along with that, we believe in another promise of Christ that said
He would return for us and take us to himself, so that where He is, we may be also.
always with Him (John 14:2-3). This event is known as the rapture of the church
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For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a command, with the trumpet of God; and the
the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive, who remain
the living will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and thus
we will always be with the Lord.
This event will take place at some point in the future in our era, thus marking the end of the world. Now
we can ask ourselves the question that heads this study: THE RAPTURE (KIDNAPPING) OF THE
CHURCH: WHEN WILL IT BE?
Although there are some Christian groups that do not believe such an event will occur, the majority of
Orthodox Christians believe that it will happen. As we already said, among those who believe that it will.
there will be a rapture of the saints to meet the Lord in the air, there are various beliefs or
doctrines regarding when this event is to occur. Some believe it will happen seven years* before
the end of the world, others that will happen in the middle of the seven years and others we believe will happen at the end
from the tribulation, at the end of the great tribulation, on the last day.
(Pre-tribulationists believe that the final tribulation will last seven years).
Waiting for the blessed hope and the glorious manifestation of our great God and
Savior Jesus Christ
2 Timothy 4:8
Furthermore, the crown of righteousness is reserved for me, which the Lord, the righteous judge, will give me at that
day; and not only to me, but also to all who love his coming
2 Peter 3:12
Waiting and hastening the coming of the day of God, in which the heavens, being on fire,
they will be destroyed, and the elements, being burned, will melt.
Interestingly, all these events that Pedro mentions are to take place after
the great tribulation, as Christ himself said in Matthew 24:29. We must also note that from
according to Peter the believers are waiting for 'the coming of the day of God' which is synonymous
"the day of our Lord Jesus Christ" and "the Manifestation of our Lord"
Jesus Christ, as Paul says. Let's look at the next verse:
1 Corintios 1:7- 8
So that you lack nothing in any gift, as you wait for the revelation of our Lord.
Jesus Christ; who will also confirm you until the end, so that you may be blameless on the day of
our Lord Jesus Christ.
In this verse, we see clearly that believers are awaiting the glorious manifestation of
our Lord Jesus Christ, which is synonymous with the day of our Lord Jesus Christ, and which will not occur
until the end comes, and it will be after the great tribulation. Paul was aware of this. He
He knew very well that "our salvation is to be completed on the day of the Lord."
Do not marvel at this because the hour is coming when all who are in the graves
they will hear his voice; and those who have done good will come forth to the resurrection of life; but those who have done
the bad, the resurrection of condemnation.
Here Jesus introduces us to the concept of resurrection (although this teaching was that of the
Pharisees, Jesus Christ affirms it), which is to take part in separate orders but at the moment of the
coming of Christ. First those who did good and then those who did evil, the Bible.
then it teaches us a general resurrection of the good and the bad on the day of the Second Coming of
Christ.
TWO RESURRECTIONS
In the book of Revelation, we see that the Bible says there will be two resurrections. The 'first
"resurrection" which is for life, and is spiritual (John 11:25-26), frees us from eternal condemnation
the second death. The first resurrection occurs at the moment of salvation (Ephesians 2:6), and the
"second resurrection" which is physical (bodily), occurs at the coming of Christ for both the righteous and
for the unjust:
Revelation 20:4-5.
Y vi tronos y sentados sobre ellos, los que recibieron la facultad de juzgar; y vi las almas de los
beheaded because of the testimony of Jesus and for the Word of God, those who had not worshiped
the beast nor its image, and who did not receive the mark on their foreheads or on their hands; and lived and
They reigned with Christ for a thousand years. But the rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were completed.
years. This is the first resurrection. Blessed and holy is the one who has part in the first
resurrection
In 1 Corinthians 15:20-23, we see the order of the resurrection for life (the first):
20 But now Christ is risen from the dead; He has become the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep. 21
For as death entered through one man, so also the resurrection of the dead through one man.
dead. 22 For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive. 23
But each in his own order: Christ, the firstfruits, then those who are Christ's at his coming.
Here we clearly see the proper order of the resurrection events for life, (Verse 20 and 23)
First, Christ rose from the dead and is the firstfruits of those who have died;
According to (Verse 23) - those who belong to Christ, at his coming. It is important to note that the word that
se traduce "venida" en español es [parusía] en griego, que significa "Presencia Visible".
1 Corintios 15(literalmente)
20 But now, Christ has been raised from the dead -- the first fruits of those who have died.
is done --, 21 because through man [is] death, also, through man [is] the
to be raised from the dead again, 22 for as in Adam all die, so also in Christ
all will be made alive, 23 and each one in his own order, Christ the firstfruit, afterward those
those who are of Christ, in his presence,
As you will notice, Christ was made the firstfruits of those who slept (died). Paul tells us
This indicates that the resurrection occurs in two stages. First Christ as 'first fruit'
(premiers) among the dead and then those who belong to Christ at his 'coming'
[parousia]. Christ is the first resurrection:
Jesus said to her, 'I am the resurrection and the life. The one who believes in me will live, even though they die; and whoever lives by believing in me will never die. Do you believe this?'
Jesus said to him: I am the resurrection and the life; whoever believes in me, even if they are dead, will live. And
Everyone who lives and believes in me will not die eternally. Do you believe this?
Acts 26:23
That Christ was to suffer, and be the first of the resurrection of the dead, to
announce light to the people and to the gentiles.
In the Gospel of John, Christ said, 'whoever believes in me, even though they die, will live' and in the book of
Revelation said, 'Blessed and holy are those who have part in the first resurrection.' The phrase
operating are 'in me' and 'have part'. These are the ones who are 'blessed' and who 'although
they may be physically dead, but they remain spiritually alive. Those who are in Christ through faith,
They have taken part in the first resurrection!
The guarantee that there will be a harvest of resurrected dead on the last day is based on the
The first fruit was raised. The quality of the first fruits was a sign or indication of what type of harvest
it was expected that year. As Christ is the first harvest (first fruits), the end of the
the harvest will be good, it is guaranteed. Therefore, those who are of Christ, 'without a doubt' must
to be raised "in his coming" (Parousia).
In the book of Revelation 14:4, it says that the 144,000 are the firstfruits, these are a number
symbolic that represents all the saved from the beginning of the world to the end, they
they make up the Israel of God. In the OT, the first fruits of the harvest were always for God, the rest
for the consumption of the people. The Church is of and for God (Exodus 23:19; 34:22,26), and for this reason it is called
Firstfruits. The 144,000 represent the saved of the people of God throughout all times (the Israel
chosen) to whom all those who remained in faith from the Old Testament belong and did not
were broken off because of their unbelief (Romans 11) and the believers in Christ of the New Covenant
who began to be gathered on the day of Pentecost (feast of weeks or of the first fruits
fruits) that marked the harvest of the first fruits, that is the Church, the spiritual Israel. These are of
Christ and will be resurrected 'at his coming' (Parousia).
Verse 24 continues: "and then the end..." We clearly see that the resurrection will take place on the day
of the 'coming (parousia = visible presence) of Christ.' And immediately after will be the end of the present world,
as Peter said, the world '...will pass with great noise... being burned.'
Behold, I tell you a mystery: We shall not all sleep (we shall not all be dead), but we shall all be changed.
transformed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet; for we
the final trumpet will sound, and the dead will be resurrected incorruptible, and we shall be
transformed.
We have already seen that all this vivification or resurrection and transformation will take place on the day of the
the coming of the Lord and "at the last trumpet".
THE FINAL TRUMPET
In 1 Corinthians 15:51 it mentions 'the final [eschatos] trumpet'. In 1 Thessalonians 4:16
For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God,
will descend from heaven; and the dead in Christ will rise first." If we study the book of
Apocalypse, we will notice that there are a series of seven trumpets mentioned, with the seventh being the final one.
[escatos] trumpet. This is the trumpet that unleashes the final events, of the beginning of
reign of Christ, the cups of God's wrath, the judgments against the inhabitants of the earth and the 'straight
final" for the coming of Christ and the rapture of the saints. It is interesting that we understand that
only one final trumpet will be played, not an orchestra of final trumpets. The final word [eschatos] of
where we take the word eschatology is defined as 'the last in a series'. If so, not
we can expect more trumpets sounding after this. And it is here, in Revelation, the
the only place in the Bible where we are told about trumpets related to the events of the
sold of Christ and the end of the world. The seventh trumpet will mark the beginning of the day of
Sir. With the last trumpet, the judgments and rewards of all human beings will begin and
then one will pass to eternity...
Revelation 11:15-18
The seventh angel sounded the trumpet, and there were great voices in heaven, saying: The kingdoms of the
The kingdoms of this world have become the kingdoms of our Lord and of His Christ; and He shall reign forever and ever.
the twenty-four elders who sat before God on their thrones fell on their faces before Him
faces, and they worshiped God, saying: We give you thanks, Lord God Almighty, who are and
Era and you must come, because you have taken your great power and have reigned." And they have been enraged.
nations, and your wrath has come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and to give
the reward to your servants the prophets, and to the saints, and to those who fear your name, to the
little ones and the big ones, and so that you may destroy those who destroy the earth.
THE TEACHINGS OF PAUL
In the book of 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18, the Apostle Paul clarifies perhaps their questions regarding
to the Christians who died, he speaks to those in Thessalonica regarding our hope and to the
events that we have already read in 1 Corinthians 15.
1 Tesalonicenses 4:13
We also do not want, brothers, that you be uninformed about those who sleep, so that you do not...
do not grieve like the rest, who have no hope. For if we believe that Jesus died and
he resurrected, so God will bring with Jesus those who have fallen asleep in him. 15 Therefore, we tell you this
In the word of the Lord: that we who are alive, who will be left until the coming of the
Lord, we will not precede those who have fallen asleep. 16 For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice
from the archangel, and with the trump of God, he will descend from heaven; and the dead in Christ will rise first.
first. 17 Then we who are alive, who remain, will be caught up
together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and thus we will always be with
the Lord.
2 Thessalonians 2:1-3, although some do not want to connect what is said there with what
we have just read, it is clear that the apostle Paul continues to speak about the same events
but with more details. In this part, the man of sin (Antichrist) is mentioned but the topic is the
same, let's see:
2 Thessalonians 2:1-3
1 But concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and our gathering together to him,
we ask you brothers, not to be easily shaken from your way of thinking, nor be troubled
neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as if it were ours, in the sense that the day of
The Lord is near. Let no one deceive you in any way; For he will not come unless first...
apostasy, and the man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition.
In these verses, Pablo speaks to us about 3 things:
The coming of our Lord
2. Our meeting with Him
The Day of the Lord.
First - I want us to notice the order that Paul uses for the first two events. Honestly
I don't think the order used by Paul is a coincidence, or that the Holy Spirit, who is the one who inspires the
The Bible has decided that this order does not matter or that it simply wants to confuse us. No
I believe it, Paul knows that the meeting of the saints with Jesus will happen at His coming, for which, first
the coming occurs, and subsequently the meeting with Him (the rapture).
Secondly - What Paul says after these verses is even more important. Paul connects the
previous events directly relating to the day of the Lord. Paul is addressing the matter regarding
to the Second Coming and the gathering of the saints with Christ and that is precisely what it does, it links
both events with each other. He does not start a new topic about the day of the Lord without finishing
to clarify the matter that he has just introduced. He tells us that the coming of Christ and the gathering of his
saints with him (rapture) will take place on the day of the Lord. It is important to remember that the day of
The Lord (the day of the rapture) will be preceded by signs in the sun, the moon, and the stars.
Thirdly- Paul also says that the day of the Lord (the day of the rapture) is not to take place
until the man of sin, the son of perdition, is manifested. This man of sin,
hijo de perdición. De acuerdo a los teólogos bíblicos este es el 'Anticristo(s)'. Así que claramente
vemos que la venida de nuestro Señor por sus santos tomará lugardespués no antes que halla
the apostasy has come and the antichrist is revealed sitting as god in the temple of God (the
temple is the Church), . Therefore the church will still be on earth when this happens, and
you will see these events.
TEACHINGS OF JESUS
The teaching of the Apostle Paul in I and II Thessalonians is completely in accordance with the
Jesus' teaching on the Mount of Olives regarding the end times and the manifestation of the
apostasy in
Matthew 24:15
Therefore, when you see the abomination of desolation spoken of by the prophet Daniel in the holy place
(Let the reader understand), then those who are in Judea should flee to the mountains. 17 He who is in the
balcony, do not go down to take something from your house; and whoever is in the field, do not turn back to
take your cloak
It is necessary that we note the words that Jesus used to address his disciples who were
believers in Him or Christians for this purpose and also "members / leaders" of His future church (it is
he is speaking to us). He tells them when 'you see'; here we can realize that
We can only see what happens if we are here on Earth. How are we going to see if we are
in the sky? He also tells them to flee to the mountains and hide, how are we going to flee or how
Will we be persecuted or troubled if we are in heaven?
Jesus not only says that we will be persecuted but that if it were not for the sake of the chosen ones
those days would not be shortened or limited Matthew 24:22.
WHO ARE THE CHOSEN ONES?
Someone could say, and indeed the pretribulationists say, that the chosen ones are the people of...
Israel. That interpretation is incorrect. The people of Israel were chosen by God in the time 'before'
from the cross. But it is necessary to understand that this adjective is used NOW, after the cross,
to refer to the members of the Church. God does not have two chosen peoples but 'one people'
"chosen" that in the Old Testament was predominantly composed solely of Jews but
Now in the New Testament it is composed of both Jews and Gentiles who believe.
in Christ. In Ephesians 1:4 the apostle Paul says to Christians: "as he chose us in him before
the foundation of the world..." So we see that as believers we are chosen. Jesus himself
He said: 'Well, I chose you.' Paul, after giving the explanation TO THE CHURCH of what
It must occur regarding the end time, the 'Antichrist' and the coming of Christ and the condemnation of the
that they did not believe us says:
2 Thessalonians 2:13
But we must always give thanks to God for you, beloved brothers
by the Lord, that God has CHOSEN you from the beginning for salvation through the spirit
and the faith in the truth..
So the chosen ones to whom Jesus is referring in His teaching in Matthew 24 are the saints of
the church which includes both Jews and Gentiles.
Ephesians 2:14 says
For He [Jesus] is our peace, who made both groups [Jews and Gentiles] one,
knocking down the intermediate separation wall.
Therefore, Jews who do not enter through Christ are not considered chosen people and will be
judged for their disbelief.
However, even with all this clarity, some eschatological commentators hold the idea that
Chapter 24 of Matthew does not correspond to the Church, but to the ethnic people of Israel. If that is the case
then we would have to believe that there will be 'two raptures', one for the church (supposedly
I Thess. 4:17) and another for the nation of Israel (supposedly Matthew 24:31), which exist 'two groups of'
"chosen ones", "two brides", (the nation of Israel and the church), that there are "two holy peoples" (the
nation of Israel and the church). We can also deduce that of the two peoples, or of the two groups
of the chosen ones, the 'least loved' are those of the nation of Israel because God left them so that
they suffered tribulation alone on earth while He was celebrating with others in heaven.
We cannot believe such teaching because Jesus was not speaking only to the Jews, nor to the Pharisees
incredulous but he was speaking to his disciples in the second person. The disciples were
the apostles and the first members of the church of Christ. And they were there as "Christians". Another
proof that Jesus is referring to the rapture of his church comes from the words
that follow those that refer to the gathering of the saints or the chosen ones. In Matthew 24:40-
41, Jesus explaining to his disciples what he said would happen in Matthew 25:31, refers to
two who are in the field and two who are at a mill. In both cases one is taken and the other is left.
abandoned. It is clear according to the context and the word that this is a reference to the day when the
Sir, come to the rapture of the church. How then can we pick verses here and there without
biblical justification?
BAD INTERPRETATIONS OF THE BIBLE
Pre-tribulationists apply verses and biblical passages to the rapture and the second coming of
Christ in an inconsistent and irresponsible manner. For example, regarding Christ's sermon on the
Mount of Olives (Matthew Chapters 24-25), they say that:
1. From verse 24:4-12 applies to the church age.
(The secret rapture or coming of Christ "for His saints" [here the church] supposedly occurs within the
verse 12 and 13, surely you didn't notice because you're not there, 'it was a secret')
2. Then, from verse 13 to verse 29, they apply it to the nation of Israel.
[Link]és del30 al 31lo aplica a la segunda venida de Cristo "con sus santos".
4. From verses 32-35, it applies to the church age but is in reference to Israel because Israel is the
fig tree that bloomed in 1948.
Christ was supposed to have raptured his church no later than 1988 when the
generation that theologians have always maintained to be 40 years. Now things have changed,
the fig tree did not bloom in 1948 but in 1967 because that was the date when Israel took Jerusalem in
a war in the hands of the Palestinians. Some pre-tribulationists say that Christ has to come
(for the rapture) before the year 2007 when the next generation comes. But others more
Ready, they now say that a generation is not 40 years but 51.4 years, thus extending the space of
time for the coming "rapture" even more, until 2018.
From verse 24:36 to 25:30 refers to the rapture.
6. From verse 24:31 to 24:45 refers to the second coming.
Another example of this type is Titus 2:13. This verse says: Awaiting the hope
blessed and the glorious manifestation of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ.
The interpretation given to this verse is also interesting. This verse is divided into two parts to
to be able to accommodate the doctrine. Let's see...
1. 'the Blessed Hope' - This phrase, according to pre-tribulationists, refers to the rapture.
7 years before the tribulation.
"The Glorious Manifestation" - This phrase, according to pre-tribulationists, refers to the
second coming after the tribulation.
The problem with this verse is that this is a key verse to prove the deity of Christ.
Jehovah's Witnesses have incorrectly translated the second part of this verse as: 'of the great God and
of our Savior, Christ Jesus." They have done this to separate "Christ" from the title of "great
"God." But this is according to those knowledgeable in linguistics, grammar, and orthographic laws.
from the Greek language is incorrect, as the two phrases are joined to indicate that the great God and
Our savior is Christ.
The phrase 'blessed hope' and the phrase 'glorious manifestation' are united in the same
way in which "Our great God" and "Savior Jesus Christ" are united. When the pre-
Tribulationists intend to separate these two phrases to make it appear that they are two distinct events.
They are doing the same thing that Jehovah's Witnesses do with the second part of the verse to
separating the title of Great God of Jesus Christ. In my understanding, this is a serious lack of integrity
Cristiana. Do you realize what kind of invention this is? And all of this is done in a forced, subjective manner.
without their own contextual biblical interpretation to justify their mistaken belief. Just because that is how it is
what is to be; of course, it has to be that way for their false doctrine to be 'biblical'. May God have mercy.
According to many interpreters of the Bible, the 'son of perdition' (2 Thess. 2:8) will manifest to the
midway through the tribulation period (in the middle of the week of Daniel 9:27). In the book of Revelation,
the beast (another reference to the Antichrist) does not manifest with its power until the middle of the tribulation.
In Revelation 13:4-5 it tells us:
And they worshiped the dragon [Satan] who had given authority to the beast, and they worshiped the beast,
saying: ) Who is like the beast, and who can fight against it? 5 Also, a mouth was given to it
who spoke great things and blasphemies; and authority was given to him to act for forty-two
months.
It is understandable that these forty-two months are exactly equivalent to three and a half years.
which do not necessarily have to be understood literally but symbolically just like it is the
first half of the week. The reign of the beast's power (type of Satanic dominion) will end
cuando Cristo venga. Veamos lo que dice en...
Revelation 19:19-20:
19 And I saw the beast, the kings of the earth and their armies, gathered to make war against the one who
he rode the white horse, and against his army. 20 and the beast was captured, and with it the false prophet
that he had made the signs in front of her with which he had deceived those who received the
the mark of the beast, and they had worshiped its image. These two were thrown alive into a lake
of fire that burns with sulfur.
2 Thessalonians 2
8 Y entonces se manifestará aquel inicuo, a quien el Señor matará con el espíritu de su boca, y
he will destroy with the brilliance of his coming
The rider on the white horse is Christ in His Second Coming (Rev. 19:11) and His army, are the
Angels, not the church, who come with Him. (Matthew 25:31)
THE TRIBULATION
Contrary to what has been taught and although many do not want to accept it, the Bible tells us that
The tribulation will be for the chosen ones, that is to say, the tribulation from the system of the world
including the government of the Antichrist. The wicked will also have their tribulation but it will be of
from God, it will be more like a punishment for them, we can understand it in the Bible as the wrath of
God.
EnMateo 24:9dice" y os entregaran a tribulación, y os mataran, y seréis aborrecidos de todas
las gentes por causa de mi nombre". Esto será antes del Anticristo manifestarse, durante el
period of 'beginning of sorrows' that Jesus spoke about. After the manifestation of the Antichrist, the
tribulation will be worse.
In Matthew 25:20-21 it is said to us: 'Pray that your flight may not be in winter, nor on the day of...'
rest; 21 for then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of
world so far, nor will there be.
We must keep in mind that believers will be persecuted and killed (afflicted) because of the
name of Jesus. This persecution (tribulation) began with the early church and in the times of
the end (of the Antichrist) will be even worse. In the book of Revelation 13:7, speaking of the beast (government
(Satanic of the Antichrist) says: "And he was given permission to wage war against the saints, and
vencerlos".¿Quiénes son estos santos? La palabra santos significa separados y vemos que este
name is given to believers. The apostle Paul referred to the church as "the saints" (Philippians
4:21; Hebrews 13:24); the apostle Peter calls us 'holy nation' (I Peter 2:9); Jude calls us
saints (Jude 3). Finally, in the same book of Revelation, the identity of 'the saints' is given and is
he says it is the Church. Although dispensationalists say from Revelation 4 to 19 the word
"church" is not mentioned but the word "saints" is, and that is supposedly 'evidence' that the
abduction occurs in chapter four, here we see that the 'saints' of the book of Revelation are 'the
Church, the wife of the Lamb.
Revelation 19
Let us rejoice and be glad and give him glory; for the wedding of the Lamb has come, and his bride
It has been prepared. 8 And she has been granted to wear fine, clean linen.
shining; for the fine linen is the righteous acts of the saints
40 So it will be at the end of the age: the angels will come forth and separate the wicked from among the just,
this century. 41 He will send the Son of Man to his Angels, and they will gather from his kingdom all the
that serve as a stumbling block, and to those who commit iniquity, 42 and they will be thrown into the fiery furnace, there
será el lloro y el crujir de dientes. 43 Entonces los justos resplandecerán como el sol en el
reino de su Padre".
This is the explanation that Jesus gives to the parable of the wheat and the tares. The parable is found in
Mateo 13:24-30.
Matthew 24:30
Let both grow together until the harvest; and at the time of the harvest, I will say to the
harvesters: First gather the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them; but gather the
wheat in my barn.
Se da cuenta, la cizaña tiene que ser recogida (agrupada, señalada, pero no matada) antes que el
wheat to be burned but not until they are judged in the judgment of the great white throne. That's why
Is it necessary for them to grow together until the end of the world (literally, the
consumación), la siega cuando Cristo venga, Él enviará sus Ángeles a separar la cizaña y a atarla
in bundles to be burned (in the lake of fire) after the wheat has been gathered in the
Christ's granary (The eternal kingdom). Jesus will come to gather the wheat (the church - the rapture), and
afterward the tares will be burned in hell. This is what occurs in Revelation 14:14-20. It is
I also need to note that these events occur after the seventh trumpet has been sounded, this
It is the last trumpet, the final trumpet, in the days or time of the coming of the Lord.
Revelation 14:14-20
14 Look, and behold, a white cloud; and on the cloud one sitting like the Son of Man,
who had a crown of gold on his head, and a sharp sickle in his hand. 15 And another angel came out
crying out with a loud voice to the one sitting on the cloud: Put in your sickle, and reap; for it has
harvest has come, for the earth's crop is ripe. 16 And the one who was seated on the cloud swung
his sickle on the earth, and the earth was reaped. 17 Another angel came out of the temple that is in heaven,
having also a sharp sickle. 18 And another angel came out of the altar who had power over the fire,
and he called out in a loud voice to the one who had the sharp sickle, saying: Put in your sharp sickle, and harvest the
clusters of the earth, for their grapes are ripe. 19 And the angel threw his sickle on the earth, and
I trod the winepress of the earth, and threw the grapes into the great winepress of the wrath of God. 20 And it was trodden.
the winery outside the city, and from the winery blood flowed to the horse's reins, for a thousand
six hundred stadiums.
This gathering of tares is the destruction of the wicked at the end of the century, a strong punishment of
destruction and death that will be inflicted upon those who serve as a stumbling block to the work of God, and those who
they commit iniquity. Matthew 13:41 and it will take place after the wheat is gathered, that is this is the
snatching away. The angels will carry out this work of separating the tares, before Christ
come to the earth to seek his church. God knows what he does and how he does it.
One of the teachings of pretribulationists is that in the rapture 'Christ comes for his saints' and
that in the coming 'Christ comes with his Saints'. I have a book of Systematic Theology which
Speaking about these events, he says: "We cannot confuse one with the other." Very
Interestingly, not a single Bible verse is given to support such teaching. How then can we...
create?
In the book of Revelation Chapter 19:14 it says, 'And the heavenly armies, dressed in linen
very fine, white and clean followed him on white horses. "The pre-tribulation commentators
aseguran que en este grupo vienen los santos de la iglesia pero eso no es lo que dice la Biblia. En
Zechariah 14:5 also speaks of the saints who accompany Jehovah in His coming.
All Saints. When the book of Zechariah was written, the church did not exist and it was already used the
"The saints" refers to the people of God. So, who does it refer to?
It is true that believers are saints, the Bible says so. We are the saints, "holy nation." That is
very clear; but the question is whether it is the saints of the church who come with Christ in his
coming? The Bible says it.
In Jude 14-15 it says:
Of these also prophesied Enoch, the seventh from Adam, saying: Behold, the Lord came with
His holy tens of thousands, to make judgment against all, and to leave convicted the
wicked...
If we only read this verse, we will not be able to understand exactly who makes up this group.
who comes with the Lord, but if we can see that those who come do so "to make judgment," not to
Judge. The church will sit to judge (Matthew 19:28; I Corinthians 6:2-3), but will NOT make or execute judgment.
In Matthew 25:31 we see who the saints are: "When the Son of Man comes in His glory,
and all the holy Angels with Him, then He will sit on His throne of glory." If you read well you
He must have realized that those who come with him are the Angels. The church is not Angels.
Mark 8:38 also says that he will come 'in the glory of his Father with the holy angels.'
WHAT THEN DO THE FOLLOWING VERSES MEAN...?
Revelation 3:10...
Because you have kept the word of my patience, I will also keep you from the hour of
the trial that is to come upon the whole world, to test those who dwell on the earth.
Many use this verse as a guarantee that the Church will not undergo any type of persecution or
tribulation. But the verse says 'I will keep you from the hour of trial.' That is, from the final part,
from the wrath of God that will come upon the whole world. This will happen at the end just before the rapture
of the holy time which will be a 'test' for the inhabitants of the earth (the earthly ones) but of the
the time when those who have their dwelling in the heavens (the believers) will be kept. Then will come the
snatching away where the Church will be delivered from the wrath of God when the Fire of God is
poured out upon the earth upon those who are disobedient to the Gospel...
2 Thessalonians 2:10
7. Because it is just before God to repay with tribulation those who trouble you; and to
you who are troubled give rest with us when the Lord is revealed
heaven with the Angels of its power, 8. IN FLAME OF FIRE to repay those who do not
conocieron a Dios, ni obedecen al evangelio de nuestro Señor Jesucristo. 9. los cuales serán
condemned to eternal perdition by the presence of the Lord, and the glory of His power.
When He comes to be glorified in His saints, and to be admired 'on that day' in
all who believed. 11. Therefore, we always pray for you, that our
God make you worthy of His calling, and fill every good intention and every work with kindness.
of faith.
In this verse, we clearly see, in stark contrast to what many teach, that THERE IS AND THERE WILL BE
TRIBULATION FOR THE CHURCH, THE SAINTS OF THE LORD. The Saints will be delivered from the hour
from the trial that will come upon the whole world when Christ comes. This is what Revelation refers to.
3:10, NOT to be delivered or taken secretly from the earth seven years before the end. If the church
I would still be here when the cups of anger are poured out, this verse simply means that
The church will be kept as Christ prayed, for the same words are used in the text.
original Greek:
John 17:15
I do not ask that you take them out of the world, BUT THAT YOU KEEP THEM from evil.
That "the keepers" do not abduct them to heaven or the clouds but protect them INSIDE the earth with
the divine power of God. There is no doubt that the church can be and will be kept by the powerful hand
of God in the same way that God cared for the people of Israel when He was pouring out the ten
plagues over Egypt.
1 Thessalonians 5:9
For God has not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation through our Lord
Lord Jesus Christ
I Tesalonicenses 1:10
And to wait for His Son from heaven, whom He raised from the dead, Jesus, who delivers us from
the coming wrath.
The saints of Christ (the Church made up of all the Gentiles and Jews who will compose it and
that they are the people of God, His Israel) will NOT experience the coming wrath FROM God. Only the
unjust, and therefore we will attain salvation through Jesus Christ on the day of his coming. This wrath
it must be understood as the wrath that God pours out on those who are not his church at the moment of their
coming as it says in I Thessalonians 1:10 and II Thessalonians 2:10, but especially the
condemnation of THE FIRE OF ETERNAL PUNISHMENT. For a more detailed consideration of the verse
Revelation 3:10 read the study 'I will keep you from the hour of trial' What does that mean?
CONCLUSION
We can confidently believe and say that THE CHURCH WILL GO THROUGH THE GREAT TRIBULATION and
that there is no biblical basis to believe that it will be any different. We cannot deceive ourselves.
neither deceive ourselves nor deceive others by making them believe that after the rapture those who
those who are not raised will have another opportunity.
1 Corinthians 6
Because it says: In an acceptable time I have heard you, and in the day of salvation I have helped you. Here it is
Now the acceptable time; HERE NOW IS THE DAY OF SALVATION.
Some have told me that if they don't go with Christ in the rapture, they will let themselves be beheaded.
How sad that there are teachers who teach people to believe in such an error. After Christ
venga, ¡No habrá ya más oportunidad para nadie!