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The document provides a detailed breakdown of ratings and comments for a board game, showing an average rating of 7.703 from 29,615 total ratings. It includes user comments highlighting the game's strategic depth, mechanics, and player interactions, with some expressing concerns about balance and player turns. Additionally, it mentions a reprint scheduled for 2026, indicating ongoing interest in the game.

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Ratings & Comments Date Rating

Ratings Breakdown

10

92

121

243

496

1k

2.8k

6.4k

9.2k

6k

3.3k

Rating Num Ratings Bar fill

1 92 10,936

2 121 10,907

3 243 10,785

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4 496 10,532

5 1,015 10,013

6 2,823 8,205

7 6,402 4,626

8 9,190 1,838

9 6,006 5,022

10 3,288 7,740

Ratings Detail

Avg. Rating

7.703

No. of Ratings

29,615

Std. Deviation

1.49

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AgentDib Avatar

AgentDib Microbadge: FanMicrobadge: Always room for 1 more gameMicrobadge:


BayesianMicrobadge: Economic Games fanMicrobadge: Game components fan Nov 2025

United States flag

Bothell, Washington · United States

Base game

2‐4 players

3.5 weight

90 min

2
Custom large drawstring bag

Android app also owned

Collections: Prev. Owned

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Minh_Nguyen Avatar

Minh_Nguyen Microbadge: Copper Board Game CollectorMicrobadge: Level 01 BGG poster


Nov 2025

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Columbus, Ohio · United States

A masterpiece design from the good doctor at the height of his powers.

Very deep game despite a quite minimal ruleset, very strong butterfly effect. Surprisingly
thematic for such a dry abstract‐adjacent game. I really like the subtle capacity this game
has for metagame development and emergence of distinct play styles. The way that it
allows for bluffing, posturing, brinksmanship, sometimes hilarious table talk, and right
behind that it allows players to adopt different risk management profiles. I like the added
control and incrementalism of Y&Y, but I also really like the purity and stripped down nature
of this game, juxtaposed with at times explosive changes in board state. I've heard multiple
people complain about "bad tile draw luck", but there's always things you can do with any
tiles you get, if you're just creative enough to find a way. The game is tactical, it's strategic,
it's tense, it's deductive, it allows for some amount of turtling but also forces players to
come into conflict with each other if they want to vie for the win. The treasure tokens are a
genius mechanic that rewards players for expanding, but at the same time creating
structural weaknesses for other players to exploit. And there's always weaknesses to
exploit. The monument mechanic is also genius, the way that they instantly create targets
for other players to aim for, while also significantly weakening the players that create them.
If there was one thing I would say I don't care for, it's that the game ends immediately when
a game ending trigger is hit. The 4th player, and often other players as well, just get fewer
turns than some other players, on top of the 1st player's advantage of staking out the best
spot on the board to begin the game, with no compensation for later players. I would love
to play this game enough to collect meaningful statistics on how various balancing variants
performed to fix this imbalance. That could be giving later players some number of treasure
tokens, or extra catastrophe tiles, or their choice of starting tiles, or refilling the bag so all

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players get the same number of turns. Bidding points for 1st player probably also works.

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cm2433 Avatar

cm2433 Nov 2025

Waiting for reprint

External image

EDIT: REPRINT IS FINALLY COMING IN 2026!

Collections: Want to Buy

ThatLazyDude Avatar

ThatLazyDude Nov 2025

Great interactive euro‐game, quite combative. Gibt es nicht mehr zu kaufen

Collections: Want to Buy

7.2

Papinek Avatar

Papinek Nov 2025

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Cornebarrieu, Occitanie · France

Ich habe noch die alte Version aus Holz und Presspappe. Ein wunderschönes Spiel mit
exzellentem Artwork, welches bei uns immer noch 4 mal pro Jahr den Spieltisch besucht.
Danke Reiner !

Collections: Own

4
5

iguuuuuuu Avatar

iguuuuuuu Nov 2025

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Lisboa, Lisboa · Portugal

I Liked

Collections: Want to Buy

7.8

Stexe Avatar

Stexe Microbadge: BeginningMicrobadge: Microbadge: God plays diceMicrobadge: This


place intentionally left [Link]: End Nov 2025

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Lansdale, Pennsylvania · United States

Another classic Knizia game that has stood the test of time. The interesting decisions and
confrontations that this game brings out is great. The only reason it loses a couple of points
is due to how aggressive the game can get and how kingmaker‐y it can be with people who
don't know what they are doing. Also, the game can be extremely frustrating if you don't
get a decent number of red tiles to use Internal Conflicts. Still a classic and I enjoy it with the
expansion (the other map with two "4" space river places) and the Ziggurat expansion (the +
building that gives 1 color of your choice).

Collections: Own

Ari88 Avatar

Ari88 Microbadge: Everdell fanMicrobadge: Arkham Horror fanMicrobadge: Spirit Island


fan ‐ FearMicrobadge: 5 Year Geek VeteranMicrobadge: I was here for the 100 millionth
Geek forums thumb! Nov 2025

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Canada

BGA

5
Collections: Prev. Owned

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WeirdFrog Nov 2025

PAX, 4 2‐4, 2h

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Creativenothing Nov 2025

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Australia

T&E is a classic and deserves all the praise it gets.

Collections: Want in Trade,Want to Buy,Wishlist

ponkiez Avatar

ponkiez Microbadge: FortMicrobadge: I love Belgium! Nov 2025

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Belgium

Reprint in 2026 ?

Collections: Wishlist

mcmikerg Avatar

mcmikerg Microbadge: Ian O'Toole fanMicrobadge: Mind MGMT: The Psychic Espionage
“Game.” fanMicrobadge: Days of Wonder fanMicrobadge: Feed the Kraken Deluxe Edition
fanMicrobadge: Stationfall Nov 2025

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Canada flag

Coquitlam, British Columbia · Canada

One of Knizia's heavier games (re‐imagined as Yellow & Yangtze, Huang), an area control
title with an interesting mechanism for expansion and resolution of conflicting rulers in a
kingdom (same color). While the tile draw is random, I enjoy the tactical aspect of earning
VP each turn based on your strongest suit(s).

Original wood and thick cardboard tiles (so much nicer than FFG plastic, IMHO).

Collections: Own

Tillis Avatar

Tillis Nov 2025

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Jena, Thüringen · Germany

Regal 15

Collections: Own

sykano Avatar

sykano Microbadge: Stone Age fanMicrobadge: Isle of Skye: From Chieftain to King
fanMicrobadge: Auf den Spuren von Marco Polo fanMicrobadge: Terraforming Mars
fanMicrobadge: Terraforming Mars fan Nov 2025

Germany flag

Germany

abstract classic with Mesopotamian theme from Reiner Knizia

unusual and elegant design

nice theme, although abstract game

thinky

7
hard to play ?

REPRINT NEEDED (FFG version)

Collections: Want to Play,Wishlist

8.5

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Anachrony fanMicrobadge: Bruxelles 1893 fanMicrobadge: Brass fan Nov 2025

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Belgium

Games like this proof you don't need layers upon layers and components on top of decks
full of cards to make a very rewarding deep strategic game experience.

Collections: Own

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mikeloftus Microbadge: Doctor Who fanMicrobadge: Lost Ruins of ArnakMicrobadge: Too


Many Bones fanMicrobadge: RadlandsMicrobadge: Marvel United Nov 2025

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Henrietta, New York · United States

After one play I finally see why this is so highly rated. Very simple, with very very deep
game‐play. Today I would add “deep gameplay that I’m terrible at, never got better at and
am not interested in learning more.” I traded this away.

Collections: Prev. Owned

MichaelHild Avatar

MichaelHild Microbadge: I spend more time on BGG than playing games!Microbadge: Terry

8
Pratchett fanMicrobadge: Weissbier drinker Nov 2025

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Heidelberg, Baden‐Württemberg · Germany

Kickstarter Q1 2026

Collections: Wishlist

VeStil Avatar

VeStil Microbadge: Come TogetherMicrobadge: Human RightsMicrobadge:


EnvironmentalistMicrobadge: AtheistMicrobadge: I'm Against Racism Nov 2025

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Drammen, Viken · Norway

Tigris & Euphrates is considered a classic for a reason. It is fantastic. However, due to the
difficulties of keeping track with everything that is going on in the game, it is the only game I
prefer to play as an app.

Collections: Prev. Owned,Wishlist

AMERICANBOYBAND Avatar

AMERICANBOYBAND Microbadge: I Love Reiner Knizia!Microbadge: Good job, Reference


Pear!Microbadge: Hive fan Nov 2025

25th century reprint

Collections: Want to Buy

AndBobsYourUncle Avatar

AndBobsYourUncle Nov 2025

Better than yellow and yangtze?

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Reprint 2026 by 25th Century.

Collections: Want to Play

sbconstant Avatar

sbconstant Microbadge: The Church fanMicrobadge: BirdwatcherMicrobadge: Halloween


fanMicrobadge: I love AutumnMicrobadge: I can read hieroglyphic Nov 2025

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Chicago, Illinois · United States

Games like this should really always be in print.

Collections: Want in Trade

TheKnittingTherapist Avatar

TheKnittingTherapist Microbadge: Proud parent of a gamerMicrobadge: Knitting


enthusiastMicrobadge: Tea drinkerMicrobadge: Jostaberry loverMicrobadge: [Link]
player Nov 2025

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Netherlands

I got this second hand in 2025. The first time we played I was amazed. This is totally my kind
of game. I don't think I will be very good at it, but I really like it. The rules aren't straight
forward so we had to refer back to the manual quite a bit. And it looks ugly. Still amazed by
the gameplay and a little bit sad I didn't play it many years ago for the first time.

Collections: Own

8.5

dlc_1532 Avatar

dlc_1532 Nov 2025

10
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Denver, Colorado · United States

[November 2025 ‐ 8.5]

Every time I play this game, I love it, and then it feels too long before I get it back to the
table.

Tigris & Euphrates has a wonderful balance of interaction, strategy and tactics in a game
where the winning score is only around 7.

You have to be OK with being attacked in this game, but then you can usually come right
back re‐take your ground. There's great tension in spending time building things up,
knowing that someone else might come in and just steal it.

It has shades of Kemet for me (where the the game's pace is so snappy, you don't have time
to turtle) and of Ankh, where timing and positioning are so important.

The rules between internal and external conflicts always take a second to refresh, but
otherwise it's a clean experience.

Collections: Own

Ephorus Avatar

Ephorus Microbadge: Cooperative? This is Sparta!Microbadge: I love old‐school German‐


style gamesMicrobadge: Cult of the OldMicrobadge: 'When playing a game, the goal is to
win, but it is the goal that is important, not the winning' ‐ Dr. Reiner KniziaMicrobadge: I
love games with direct player interaction Nov 2025

Germany flag

Frankfurt am Main · Germany

What I like:

‐ Big moments, lots of tension, and the board state constantly changes due to the conflicts.

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‐ Players win the game in the color they have the least of. Hence, it's more important to be
strong in all colours instead of having an engine for one or two colours.

‐ Relatively short play time. Hence, one can play it directly again.

Neutral:

‐ Draw luck is sometimes present but I see it more as a restriction on what one can do
during a round. Still, if you don't get red tiles, you cannot perform internal conflicts, etc.

Collections: Own

7.1

Mr. Panci Avatar

Mr. Panci Microbadge: Puerto Rico fanMicrobadge: Through the Ages: A Story of Civilization
fanMicrobadge: Napoleonic Wars enthusiastMicrobadge: Camel Up fanMicrobadge: ISS
Vanguard fan Nov 2025

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Torino · Italy

Perhaps 8 is too low, but I still ahve to be conquered by this one. [2005.11.22]

Collections: Own

Eugeniosaracino Avatar

Eugeniosaracino Microbadge: I play with red!Microbadge: Agricola fanMicrobadge: Stone


Age fanMicrobadge: Asterix fanMicrobadge: Architect Oct 2025

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Ciudad autónoma de Buenos Aires, Argentina · Argentina

Esp) Juegazo clásico del Dr. Knizia. De la época dorada de juegos de Mesa.

Collections:

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abeheron Avatar

abeheron Microbadge: Level 02 BGG posterMicrobadge: I was here for BGG's Tenth
Anniversary!Microbadge: Copper Board Game Collector Oct 2025

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Ramat Gan · Israel

An extremely strategic and brain burning Euro.

Some consider it a bit bland and it is certainly on the more abstract side of things, but I don't
find it bland at all ‐ the main theme of the game ‐ the ebb and flow of the ancient
civilisations on the banks of the Tigris and Euphrates comes out really well in this game, and
the strategies are deep and engaging. Better yet, it is highly playable as a two player game.

Collections: Prev. Owned

Pelle0809 Avatar

Pelle0809 Oct 2025

Really enjoyed this one in one play. Easy to play, but hard to play well. Feels thematic even
though it's very abstracted. Lots of fun interaction. Rated after one play.

Collections: Own

ismailegler Avatar

ismailegler Microbadge: 5 Year Geek Veteran Oct 2025

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İstanbul, İstanbul · Turkey

masters masterpiece..

Collections: Own

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AndiHOhneYpsilon Avatar

AndiHOhneYpsilon Microbadge: Buffy fanMicrobadge: Planet Apocalypse fanMicrobadge:


Cooperative Games fanMicrobadge: Peloponnes fanMicrobadge: Arkham Horror fan Oct
2025

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Eisenberg/Allgäu, Bayern · Germany

Best Knizia game in my opinion, though it's a bit to quiet with only 2 players. Think it begins
to shine with 3 or 4.

Collections: Own

6.5

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Microbadge: I consider myself a very lucky personMicrobadge: 10 Year Geek
VeteranMicrobadge: [Link] user Oct 2025

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Woerden · Netherlands

Dutch version

Collections: Prev. Owned

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Derianhorgen Oct 2025

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Germany

SpielboxRating 8‐9, av. 8,50

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Collections: Own

bertikbar Avatar

bertikbar Microbadge: Silver Board Game CollectorMicrobadge: I was here for BGG's
Twentieth Anniversary!Microbadge: 5 Year Geek Veteran Oct 2025

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Praha, Hlavní město Praha · Czech Republic

Odehráno

Collections: Own

9.5

sahelanthropus Avatar

sahelanthropus Microbadge: Digimon fan ‐ AgumonMicrobadge: Tolkien fanMicrobadge:


Christopher Nolan fanMicrobadge: Thrice fanMicrobadge: Metal Gear fan Oct 2025

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Australia

A fine move! The classic tile‐laying area control game.

Some object that it feels abstracted, but I say it finely models the rise and fall of civilizations
as if you were looking at a geographical timelapse.

Collections: Own

8.5

wamadeus Avatar

wamadeus Microbadge: 5 Year Geek VeteranMicrobadge: Copper Board Game


CollectorMicrobadge: Level 01 BGG posterMicrobadge: I was here for BGG's Twentieth
Anniversary!Microbadge: I was here for BGG's Tenth Anniversary! Oct 2025

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Lleida · Andorra

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RK

Collections: Own

krll Avatar

krll Microbadge: Android: Netrunner fanMicrobadge: Pax Porfiriana fanMicrobadge: COIN


fanMicrobadge: Brass fanMicrobadge: The owls are not what they seem... Oct 2025

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Wedel, Schleswig‐Holstein · Germany

2020

Collections: Own

karlori Avatar

karlori Microbadge: Age of Renaissance fanMicrobadge: War of the Ring fanMicrobadge:


Power Grid fanMicrobadge: 5 Year Geek Veteran Oct 2025

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Lewiston, Minnesota · United States

Collections: Want in Trade,Wishlist

7.5

danephoto Avatar

danephoto Microbadge: Dune: Imperium ‐‐ UprisingMicrobadge: Matagot fanMicrobadge: I


love games with direct player interactionMicrobadge: RadlandsMicrobadge: Sushi Go! fan ‐
Salmon Nigiri Oct 2025

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Utah · United States

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Oct. 2025

After playing Yellow & Yangtze and Huang, I can see the sharper edge and bigger cascades of
T&E’s original design. I want to play more and think T&E will grow into a higher rating after a
few more plays. Having my first plays be vs AI in the app was a terrible way to learn the
game. I’m glad I got to play with real people who could explain the less transparent parts of
the game.

Feb. 2019

After reading several forums talking about how this game was a euro masterpiece with
direct player interaction, I thought I'd better try it. I knew it was abstract, but wow was this
dry. I see some elegant design here, but I don't think I can stick around to learn the deeper
strategy. The game just falls so flat for me. I'll stick with Dogs of War and Blood Rage.

Collections:

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Board Game CollectorMicrobadge: I was here for BGG's Twentieth Anniversary!Microbadge:
I was here for the 100 millionth Geek forums thumb! Oct 2025

LabCassone

26,79€ Vinted (22,00)

Collections: Own

JonasBang Avatar

JonasBang Microbadge: Copper Board Game CollectorMicrobadge: Star Wars: Destiny


fanMicrobadge: Android: Netrunner LCG fanMicrobadge: [Link] fanMicrobadge:
Bastard Café ‐ Board Games & Coffee ‐ Copenhagen Oct 2025

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Denmark

2‐4

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Collections: Own

07734 Avatar

07734 Microbadge: I play games while I drinkMicrobadge: Ramen loverMicrobadge: The


Thing fanMicrobadge: Mr. Robot fanMicrobadge: Foo Fighters fan Oct 2025

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Loveland, Ohio · United States

Main

Collections: Own

7.9

netfilterz Avatar

netfilterz Microbadge: 10 Year Geek VeteranMicrobadge: I'm a GM!Microbadge: Chronicles


of Drunagor: Age of Darkness fanMicrobadge: 80's Music fanMicrobadge: Mutant: Year Zero
fan Oct 2025

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Unspecified · Belgium

Waw... I'm deeply impressed with this game. Of all of Knizia's games I have played so far this
is the best, and IMO very deservedly in the top 3 here on BBG (bit of a dated comment, but
it's still a great game). Forget the (anti)snobbery, and try to at least play this game once. It
had me hooked from the go. Great for 2 as well, regardless of what it says on the side of the
Mayfair Edition box, where it incorrectly states it as a game for 3‐4 players.

Collections: Own

globetrotter Avatar

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Game fanMicrobadge: Trajan fanMicrobadge: Through the Ages: A Story of Civilization
fanMicrobadge: Mage Knight Board Game fan Oct 2025

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Hisings Backa · Sweden

One of my favourites and my friends love it too.

Too abstract for later taste...

Collections: Prev. Owned

8.5

thorbot Avatar

thorbot Microbadge: Uwe says...Microbadge: The Elder Scrolls: Betrayal of the Second Era
fanMicrobadge: A Feast for Odin fanMicrobadge: Orange Nebula fanMicrobadge: Cthulhu
Wars fan Oct 2025

Solidly engaging tile laying game with lots of depth, does not play well with groups who
avoid combat. Hailed by many as "the best game of all time" and a "masterpiece" but I don't
see it as such. While it is excellent, there are many other games with more solid themes and
gameplay that I prefer to this one. Still, worth owning.

Collections: Own

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ExcellentRaven Microbadge: BuddhistMicrobadge: PirateMicrobadge: Ninja Oct 2025

best multi‐player abstract I've found. Stands the test of time. 4p only. beautiful complex
interactions. a true classic, a gem of a boardgame. In the hall of fame.

Collections: Own

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wooloo1 Avatar

wooloo1 Microbadge: The Great Zimbabwe fanMicrobadge: Reiner Knizia fanMicrobadge: I


love old‐school German‐style gamesMicrobadge: I aspire to Curmudgeon Level
EricMicrobadge: Pax Pamir fan Oct 2025

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Los Angeles · United States

T&E is my Platonic ideal of a board game. The play is with the other players, not the game
itself. No min‐maxing. No workers to place. Seasoned with a splash of hidden information
and a dash of luck, the game is not the dry abstract you might have been led to believe. The
theme ‐ rise and fall of kingdoms ‐ comes through with time.

Almost exclusively played online.

Collections: Own

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gamesMicrobadge: Abstract fanMicrobadge: Ameritrash fanMicrobadge: Casual wargamer
Oct 2025

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Wiesbaden, Hessen · Germany

I've got rather late to this classic and Knizia games in general (I've missed many of them out
in the 90s). Then however T&E jumped up into my very top games immediately. I've learned
the game via the app, which ‐ despite its mediocrity ‐ managed to get me enthusiastic. The
real experience is even more fantastic.

A shame that in my gaming groups T&E's popularity is low, because they prefer to have
more theme in their strategy games, more simplicity in their abstract games, more balance
in their random tile draws.

There is luck in tile draws, an ongoing lack of red tiles will only get you that far. Imo the
game is less elegant than some Knizia fans claim it to be (in fact I perceive learning and to
some degree also playing the game as somewhat unintuitive). But it's also way more
thematic than some non‐Knizia fans give it credit to. What I love about the game is that T&E
tells stories. It's a dynamic ebb and flow of kingdoms and conflicts. Plays are packed with a
mixture of strategy, tactics and board changing drama. Things have impact and you can feel

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that impact.

A stellar game for me, which competes with the more accessible Samurai for the title of my
favorite Knizia game.

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Collections: Own,Wishlist

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Ricochet Robots fan Oct 2025

Pacífico

I heard someone say it’s both easier and harder than you can imagine. And yes.

Collections:

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Homebrewer ‐ I make my own beer !Microbadge: CaverMicrobadge: Scythe fan Oct 2025

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Edmonton, Alberta · Canada

This game has a lot of thinking of pre‐planning on it. Been hitting the APP and BGA on a
monthly basis to get plays in. Remains in my top 10 favorite games and staple of my
collection (Though I really only play on BGA these days. This rarely hits the table as it's not
my groups jam)

Collections: Own

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Microbadge: Fields of Fire fanMicrobadge: Electrical EngineerMicrobadge: I love Sydney Oct
2025

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Randwick, NSW · Australia

2‐4: Playing this game is like listening to the 1812 Overture ‐ a very special event that can't
be repeated too often or it loses its specialness.

Sold to frn8.

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