East Point
Friday, May 01, 2020
7:03 AM
the EP is
symbolically where the Ascendant would be if we were born at the Equator
(a fixed earth point just like the Aries Point) we merge the meaning of
the two:
The East Point symbolizes contacts, manner of interaction (persona),
relationships with others, and environs (Ascendant) when one is out among
the general public (Aries). I have found this to be the case. For
example, transits to this point indicate meetings out among the public (on
the street, in public buildings, etc.) It does indeed refer to those
components of relationships which take place out in public or which gain
public notice, and to our public persona.
Interesting that some astrologers (for example, those who use the Meridian
house system) employ the East Point in place of the Ascendant.... the East
Point is the way one is known for conducting oneself in public, while the
Ascendant is the way one interacts with others in more personal situations
(symbolically, specific to one's birthplace). This would imply that only
people who know us well could validate the pictures and aspects to the AS
while those who know us only in public situations would validate the
pictures and aspects to the EP.
From <[Link]
East Point in Aries and 12th House: This person's generalized projected
personality and outward appearance is very forceful, energetic, direct,
courageous, and seeks adventure and challenge. Most often this manifests in
the area of life dealing with things that disrupt or cause disassociation
with the personality. This is a major aspect of the person's psyche!
From <[Link]
the East Point/West Point Axis relates to our idealized notions of how things should be, our
personal biases, and our unconscious self-evaluation. This Axis is associated with our personal
ideals of paradise and perfection, skewed or not (depends on the person). Synastry involving
the East Point/West Point Axis supposedly gives the feeling that the other person is 'perfect' in
some way. Or that they behave in just the 'right' way. Or that they fit how people in general are
ideally 'supposed' to be.
Synastry with this this Axis also shows how others influence our subjective self-evaluation,
when comparing ourselves to people who aspect our Ep/Wp, and adopting or disgarding
arbitrary biases (personal likes/disllikes).
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So in synastry it would show how others resonate with our arbitrary biases in some way when
they aspect our EP, and vice versa when we aspect their EP…. Like both people have the same
social standards of what type behavior is acceptable or not, or they just happen to think that
maroon is better than pink, or think that one type of accent sounds better than another, or they
agree that long hair is better then short hair….
Positive EP synastry, at least, would have a positive effect on our self evaluation… because, in
theory, our personal biases of what is considered good or bad, or positive or negative… Would
be supported, and re-enforced, by the people who conjoin or positively aspect the EP. These
people would validate us in our personal beliefs….
Perhaps negative aspects to the EP would have an opposite effect…. The feeling of having your
personal biases unappreciated or invalidated?
I think it’s interesting to compare the EP to the Vertex in terms of influence to get a ‘feel’ for how
each one works differently…
From <[Link]
Equatorial Ascendant (East Point)
The eastern node created by the intersection of your Horizon Plane and the Celestial Equator is labeled
"E" for east. This is your most eastern point on your horizon plane. If you follow an Earth meridian (Earth
longitude) from the East Point (E) to the ecliptic, you will have your Equatorial Ascendant (Eq ASC).
The stars surrounding and conjoining the East Point (E) on your horizon plane, from which the Eq ASC is
derived, can also led insight into the nature of your Equatorial ASC. The East Point is of sunrise, of new
beginnings, of starting fresh.
Many astrological authors have written about the nature of the Equatorial Ascendant. It may be worth
researching their writings if you are not familiar with this point and would like other perspectives on this
point's significance.
The Equatorial Ascendant delineates our soul-level attitude toward our experience on Earth based on
the aggregate of soul's experience (karma) up to this incarnation, and thus how we tend to feel about it.
It is more transcendent to the ASC expression, sort of inner hidden energetic augmenting our more
covert expression revealed by the ASC. Equatorial Ascendant stars can indicate the nature of an attitude
we may need to address before clearly expressing soul (through the ASC) in empowered confidence.
This can also be a deep seated soul-level grief or regret about what we did not accomplish, attain or live
up to in our previous incarnational experience.
From <[Link]
The Equatorial Ascendant can be found by following an Earth meridian to the ecliptic. The Vertex can be
found by following a Horizon Plane meridian to the ecliptic. Thus, the East Point is common to Earth's
equatorial plane, whereas the Vertex, being an orthogonal projection from the Horizon Plane, is
common to our personal plane, somewhat removed from or transcendent to the Earth plane, that is,
more related to the person and other people rather that of Earthian experience itself. This perspective
may help provide insight as to why the Prime Vertical and the Vertex are said to be related to fated
matters, those seemingly out of our hands; or simply how the world can act upon us regardless of our
personal intent and actions. For people with strong vertex alignments (i.e., conjoining planets, primary
asteroids, or significant stars) this may be all the more true—where it seems that certain things involving
other people just happen or may even seemed blocked until the mysterious universe decides otherwise.
From <[Link]
The place on the celestial horizon 90° clockwise from the North Point is called East Point where the Sun
rises at the equinoxes twice a year, around March 20 and 23 September. Astrological, the East Point or
EP always squares Mid Coeli ( 10th house cusp ) and Imum Coeli ( 4th house cusp ), and never moves
further than 1st and 12th house. East Point tranzits along the zodiac at a very aproximative same speed
as the MC. The West Point or WP always opposites the EP, making an axis. The Meridian House system
that is similar to the Regiomontanus system, uses the EP as ascedent and WP as descedent, which many
astronomers and astrologers were against it, because they didn't know the real function of the EP/WP
axis.
But no matter what house system it's used, EP and WP actualy has a ezoteric signfication.
To think ezotericaly, anything related to east is related to fire, Sun, right path, emisive energies, yang
energies and energy in generalistic way. Similar to Nodes of the Moon, Lilith/Priapus axis, Vertex/Anti-
Vertex axis, the East point has the same energetic and subtle atributions which few know how it works.
Talking about the Meridian house system, the ones who invented it weren't doing it for nothing,
because the East Point has similar symbolistic indication as Aries/Mars/1st house which shows
generalized scheme of personality, self dedication and devotion to a goal or what path in life you want
to take and the shaping the outward appearance. The difference about the EP from Aries, Mars and the
Ascedent is that it acts more subtle, in more unknown, inner, introspective way. EP may also reprezent
what we like to change from ourself, what we want to be, and it's more related to establishment of
subconcious ego, unlike the Ascedent which reprezents the establishment of personality in more direct,
dignified or easily expressed way.
A sign, planet, sabian symbol, asteroid, fixed star etc that has the position on the East Point, is certainly
more powerfull, cause since is an energetic point similar to the ascedent, anything that conjuncts or
opposites the EP has a more intense influence and also the EP is coloured by the object it does the
aspect and the sign involved. Using aspects whit EP or WP needs a tight orb, except conjunction or
opposition, but for trine, sextile or square it requires a more stricter orb tolerance so it could have a
significant influence. ( Using WP is the same ).
Going back to the explination of the EP/WP axis, West point has it's own ezoteric meaning, west that is
related to air, receptive energies, yin energies, and relating in life. West Point has similar symbolistic
indication as Libra/Venus/7th house which shows generalized scheme of relating whit others, how
would we want a relationship to be and what we would like about it, it also reprezents the way taking in
life, the path you need to end, also opportunities from others, growth, but maturization and bieng more
decisive in life is needed.
The EP and WP bieng from the symbolistical of angular houses, and cardinal signs makes anything
related to them more powerfull. ( Like someone who is watering the seeds, making things grow faster
and more vital ).
In a medical way EP shows fire, it's related to the heart, head, solar plexus, blood tensions, vital energy,
heat, temperament, eyes and anything related in base whit fire in medical astrology. The WP shows air,
it's related to lungs, kidney, breathing, nervous system, thinking, imagination, nervous impulse etc and
anything related in base whit air in medical astrology.
Some karmical and ezoteric astrologers said that calculation points ( Nodes, Lilith, Priapus, Vertex etc )
are energetic points related very subtle whit our karmical debts and path in life, this aplies very well
whit the East Point and West Point also, which makes them have a respectful importance, which many
would ignor.
From <[Link]
Both the East Point and Antivertex can be interpreted as auxiliary Ascendants. That is, they function as
additional keys to one’s basic identity, action, energy, drive and self-expression.
They do not seem to be AS important as the actual Ascendant, but do offer useful clues to major themes in
the nature of the individual. Either angle requires more attention when a planet falls closely conjunct it. This
is almost as significant as having that planet conjunct the Ascendant. The planet(s) involved denote major,
keynote principles of that individual’s sense of self, identity, assertion and being in the world.
A good example is former President Jimmy Carter. His East Point conjuncts his Saturn in Scorpio. His
Antivertex conjuncts his Jupiter in Sagittarius. His East Point and Saturn conjunct his Juno in Scorpio. The
conjunction with Saturn symbolizes his energetic pursuit of executive power, the ambition to make it to the
top. Jupiter symbolizes our ultimate values, including traditional religious beliefs (as well as education,
spiritual quests, travel, etc.) Jupiter combined with the Ascendant, Mars, first house, Aries or East Point or
Antivertex can manifest as the missionary type: “I have the truth and it is the only truth. Take it, world!” The
conjunction of the East Point to Juno, the “marriage asteroid” indicates a close, personal involvement in a
committed partnership; the desire for an equal sharing. Jimmy Carter demonstrated his power drive in
seeking and obtaining the U.S. Presidency. His marriage to Rosalyn was and is very equalitarian; she is
reported to have tremendous influence and impact in his decisions. His strong (Baptist) religious convictions
were particularly unusual for a modern-day politician.
From <[Link]
HOUSE PLACEMENT
We begin with house placement because it is the most limited and simplest to cover. Since it IS limited, it is
NOT the most important factor, but a part of the picture. (Aspects are the most important factor, in my
experience.) Generally, house placement suggests very mild themes. Pay attention when a theme or issue is
repeated by other configurations in the chart. Always, what is most important in the nature and horoscope
will be repeated—said over and over again.
When the East Point or Antivertex falls in the twelfth house, there is a slightly Neptunian flavor to the
identity, assertion, basic self-expression. This can manifest as idealism, high expectations, grace in action,
escapism, or a number of variants. Extremes include, “I am perfect and can do as I please.” versus “I
SHOULD be perfect and if I am not, then I am nothing.” God and the infinite are a role model for self.
An eleventh house placement suggests Uranian overtones to the identity. There is a hint of the rebel, the
revolutionary. Personal freedom is more emphasized. Unique self-expression is more significant. This can be
original, innovative, creative or chaotic, unpredictable, destructive. Friends and open-minded activities,
associations are role models for the individual.
Placements in the first house add a little emphasis to the “I am what I am” theme. There is a little more
directness, forthrightness in personal self-expression. Freedom needs are slightly more intense. Whoever the
person is, the identity is in a bit more “pure” form, more readily apparent.
Second house placements tie the theme of pleasure from the material world to the self-expression. This can
range from pure self-appreciation (“I like myself.”) to hedonism, potential over-indulgence in food, drink,
possessions, collecting or spending money, etc.
THE WEST SIDE STORY
If the East Point and Antivertex operate as auxiliary Ascendants, then logically the West Point (opposite the
East Point) and the Vertex (opposite the Antivertex) operate as auxiliary Descendants. Again, they are not
usually as important as the actual Descendant, but do imply themes. If repeated elsewhere in the chart, the
themes are significant.
The Descendant, Vertex and West Point are all keys to our close, committed relationships. They symbolize
the feelings and experiences we seek through close others (spouses, live-in partners, therapists, etc). Often,
they operate as points of projection, that is, these angles can point to qualities we tend to meet first through
other people; attributes of ourselves we may learn to face through seeing someone else express the energy.
The danger with projection is overdoing. If one person in a relationship is “doing it for” someone else, the
first person is likely to do TOO MUCH of whatever the quality is.
So, each angle axis—Ascendant/Descendant; East Point/West Point and Antivertex/Vertex relates to that
basic self/other polarity. Each gives us clues about balancing self-will and independent action with sharing
and committing to others. Generally, it is easiest to personally identify with the eastern end of each axis. It is
easiest to disown and see as “out there” (in other people) the western end.
This potential of “giving away” a part of who we are and unconsciously attracting other people to manifest
that missing side contributes to what has been called the “fated” quality of the Vertex. Where other people
are involved, we have less control and less power than where we are concerned only with our actions and
attitudes as an individual. People who externalize responsibility for their own lives call such interactions
“fated.” I prefer to operate within the world view that life is a mirror; we attract people we can learn from.
Everyone in our lives is teaching us about a part of our own nature and potentials.
Both axes then (East Point/West Point and Antivertex/Vertex) point to a basic self/other polarity in the life
that must be faced. In any opposition, the goal is integration. There is a natural complementarity. Both ends
need each other to be fully effective. There are two major dangers with any opposition (polarity) in the
horoscope. One danger is swinging from one extreme to the other. It is not uncommon for people to overdo
one end of a polarity, then—in reaction—go to the opposite extreme. Some people spend their lives flip-
flopping from one end of the seesaw to the other. The second danger is projection. In that case, the
individual identifies with one end of the polarity and denies its opposite. So, unconsciously, that individual
attracts other people who are expressing that opposite quality. The problem is, they are usually carrying it to
an extreme. So, when we see exaggerated behavior, it is a good idea to look into our own psyches at what
we may be denying.
Each opposition brings a set of themes connected to that polarity. So, East Point/ West Point or
Antivertex/Vertex across the first and seventh houses is the basic self versus other polarity. This can be the
pull between self-assertion and doing what one wants versus pleasing and accommodating to others. It can
be the dilemma of freedom (personal independence) versus closeness (a committed love relationship). We
can alternate between extremes or overdo one end, or pick someone (unconsciously) who will overdo for us.
Placing these angles across the second and eighth houses puts the focus on the issue of handling the
physical, sensual world comfortably with others. We may be internally torn between self-indulgence (whether
around food, sex, money, smoking, drinking, etc.) versus control of the appetites. We can externalize the
conflict by identifying with one end and unconsciously selecting a partner to play out the opposite end of the
seesaw. Then we spend our time fighting about spending versus saving or sex or other forms of giving,
receiving and sharing the physical pleasure world. The goal is to be comfortable within ourselves in our
handling of physical possessions and pleasures and also to be able to receive from others; give to others and
share equally with others in an intimate context.
Where these angle axes fall across the fifth and eleventh houses, we are again dealing with freedom versus
closeness issues. A part of us wants to be independent, off doing our own thing, unique, not following anyone
else’s rules. Another side of who we are wants to love and be loved; to be special; to be admired and looked
up to in an intense, emotional relationship. One side of our being emphasizes the intellect, the detached,
objective mind; another side values the heart, feelings and emotional responses from others. We may
externalize the conflict by feeling torn between friends and lovers or children. Or, we can identify with either
end and attract the opposite from others in our lives, or flip-flop from one side to the other until we learn to
have some of both in our lives.
The opposition across the sixth and twelfth houses by these angles points to a need to truly blend our
dreams with reality. We are learning to be both idealistic and realistic. If not handled, we may swing from
rose-colored glasses, gullibility and disillusionment or escapism to hard-nosed insistence on doing everything
exactly by the book. Or, we can identify with one end, and attract significant others who overdo the opposite
side. Our work arena (and our health) are often areas where we are learning to take the small, reasonable
steps to reach our visionary goals. If we do not integrate this polarity, we may job hop, each time looking for
a more ideal situation, or suffer from ill health because we are not doing that incredible, wonderful visionary
work which we feel we OUGHT to be doing. It is all well and good to have a “calling.” We must just be able to
ground our visions in the physical world, to do what is necessary to turn them into an actuality.
Remember, anything in the chart which is important will appear in the form of a repeated message. Major
issues and themes are highlighted in a number of different ways. These two angle axes can suggest potential
areas of analysis, but we need to look for confirmation in the rest of the chart to be sure the focus we choose
is truly of major import.
From <[Link]
EAST POINT
The ascendant in a chart is the degree and sign that is rising on
the local horizon at the time of our birth. The East Point is the
degree and sign rising on the equator at the time of our birth.
Sometimes it is called the equatorial ascendant. For now, we'll limit
the definition to personal matters which take place in public, or
which gain public notice, or capture the public’s imagination. It’s
almost a melding together of the ascendant and midheaven.
From <[Link]