577th Knowledge Seekers Workshop February 13, 2025

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ENGLISH TRANSCRIPTION
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K- Thank you very much. Good morning, good day to you, as usual, wherever and
whenever you listen to this series of Knowledge Seekers from Keshe Foundation,
Spaceship Institute. We are back in the same position.

Trying to understand the work of the Creation and the Creator. And, once you understand
this, you start realizing how beautiful the Creation is. And, in a way, if you are a cook,
you have the same ingredient, but you mix it different way, and you make different taste,
different texture, different colors out of the same thing. They put you in a cooking
session, everything on the table, and they give the same ingredient to 10 chefs, and each
chef comes up with different recipe from the same base material on the table. This is how
the World of Creation is, but fortunately we have one cook, (:14) who's called the
Creator, call it God or whatever, and then the rest of it is, conditions which are given, that
creates different recipes, within the same environment of the same kitchen, we call it the
Universe (U). So in a way we have one master chef and many tables and ovens and
cutting mixture but the same ingredient and depends where this chef goes on which table
with size what to do instead of having 10 different chefs on different tables. So the
ingredient of the cooking is exactly the same. Same flour, same milk, the same sugar, the
same other things, and we see how the Master makes bread with one, cake with the other
one, croissant with the same thing with the other one, and the rest of it. So in the World
of Creation is the same. We have the Creator, different conditions in the Universe creates
different products, different end, and they're all delicious to eat. If it's a human, you enjoy
the life of a human. If you're a Martian, you enjoy the life of a Martian. It's just the taste
of the one who tests and tastes the food on that table. But in essence the Creation, the
essence of the Creator is all the same. How you twist it, what kind of dough will come
and what will give you at the end.

The life of cycle of fields of the Creator is all the same. (:16) And how they entangle,
how the measurements are, and how what strength they have give us different
opportunities, different chances, physical life like a planetary system, physical life like a
star which still has its own life. And then, no manifestation of physicality, which man
will learn very soon, but it's still life. In open space gaps between the stars and galaxies
you see, is not empty, it's full of life. But, different recipe is used to keep it together, to in
a way, exist. We only look at the life in the dimension (D) of physicality. We call it the
galaxy, and we see some bunch of them together. But as much as we see, the gaps have
their own lives. They are even bigger in a structure than the galaxies. But we don't have
the visualization of seeing. In a way, we look at the body inside, and we see the cancer
cells. We call it galaxies. There is a still length. There is still a structure which we don't
see, because we only see which is solidified and is there. We call it the cancer cell.

So if you look at it that way, the Universes and the galaxies and the planetary system are
where the energy has managed to manifest itself in the man visual dimension. Not
everybody sees what we see. Many planetary and star systems which is visual to man is
invisible to the others, because their bandwidth of the strength is not there. (:18) But in
essence, everything is the beginning, the same. Once we understand this, we go back to
the teaching of last week, which we refer to neutron as to be the fundamental element that
is mentioned in the Books. But this fundamental element, this Fundamental Plasma only
can manifest itself to be there if there is an environment which can compare in the
strength to. And the field strength of dictates.

In the world of physics today we talk about heating and expansion or creating pressure
and vacuum, but we have actually no scientists, no research has been done that does
actually the size of the neutron, the size of proton, or the size of electron changes in this
heat and compression. There is a research done by Russian scientists, the West is trying
to keep it very, very quiet because it's like Keshe Foundation, will bring huge changes.
And in the very recent past, past couple of years, when one of the world leaders wanted
to compete in the election and he had no funds, they used this technology to fund the
campaign and he won the election. Russians have come up with an amazing system that
they mix materials together in a specific way and it produces about 16% of gold. And
they use compression, they use a specific way of mixing, hardly any chemicals used.
(:20) But when you mix certain materials, it gives you 16% gold residue. And this gold
was used to, in a way, finance one of the biggest elections in past years.

But, in that technology, we always look, at what pressure we create, to what to give. I
was supervisor, I was advisor to this confirmation of this technology (T), with all the
scientific data in front of me. And I explained to the officials, that the gold here, is
created out of the pressure, of what happens in the Earth condition if we do, and it's why
we get only 16% maximum. And comparing it to the plasma technology, we create
materials, but out of interaction of the fields. In the matter state, we compress materials
together. In the plasma technology, we never measured the size of a neutron. Intelligence
research up to now has not confirmed the exact change of the size of the neutron on the
vacuum condition, on the heat condition, or on the compression, or on any other.

In a way, we cannot change it with the physical matter. But if you understand the plasma
technology, there is a way to expand the size of neutron. There is a way to expand the
size of proton, there is a way to expand the size of electron. (:22) In the world of physics
today we say, the size of electron is 2,000 times or whatever, of the, what you call it,
smaller than the neutron or proton or whatever. This is all physics things we see and
assumption we make. But we have never scientifically measured the size of neutron or
proton, electron on the matter state condition.

Theoretically the expansion in the matter state is the gap between the atoms. This is how
you make molecules. How you add copper and zinc and whatever you make, what you
call a composition. composition of brass and everything else. In the world of plasma
technology, we can only change the size, the amount of fields in a condition, because it's
not objects anymore of a plasma condition like neutron, by specific methods, by specific
ways, and this is the secret of the transmutation and transportation. What does this mean?
It means in a mechanical system to get one thing pulled by something else, we use a rope,
we pull it, we pull it with the hand. We want to compress it, we use pressure and
compress it. In the world of plasma we can't do this. Compression has no effect, more or
less, very, very slight. (:24) And there is no way we can physically tag a rope around the
neutron and pull it. But we can pull neutron using and understanding the work of
magnetic fields, because it's rope, is field strength. It's rope, it's the field it gives out. And
how we can tap into it. This is why when you put two magnets together, one magnet
moves or gets attracted. You don't physically push the magnet away. Physically the field
interaction strength of the field dictates position. This is what we call MaGrav
Positioning.

Then going back to understanding this process we understand or you should have
understood that Knowledge Seekers (KS), a secret similarity in all conditions of the
teaching of the Keshe Foundation and the matter state of today and observation of the
scientific way to exist. In conformation of physicality (P). If you take one part out, the
other part cannot function. In the world of physics today we say Hydrogen (H) is a proton
and electron, but in fact it's a neutron. We look at it in two halves, but we don't look at it
as a total. And what we see as a Hydrogen and a structure of the proton and electron, is
exactly what's happening inside the neutron. Inside the neutron we have another field
inside it, exactly what we see as Hydrogen. (:26) This is why Hydrogen is so important
in the structure of understanding the world of physics in matter state and the plasma state.

If you look at it in a very simple way what we see in the World of Creation as a plasma
Hydrogen structure is very simple. And that is, when we understand this the world of
science, the Space technology and physics makes a lot of sense. We call it Hydrogen and
proton and electron. But in fact, this Hydrogen itself has a different characteristics in a
way, is a Fundamental Plasma. Because that's what we see as an atom of Hydrogen. Is a,
in a way, if you look at it, if you understand it in, in a scientific way, doesn't have a
physical boundary, the way we are used to, but it has in a way an imaginary boundary
which we see assume, to be the atom of Hydrogen.

This is when in the matter state, when the Soul of the Man (STM) passes the dimension
of physicality (P), (:28) where the actual physicality sits between the Soul of the object
and the physicality of the object. Depends which one you look at. The confusion in the
world of science today is that we have not identified scientifically the separation or the
difference between, in a way, an atom and the plasma of an atom. If you look at an atom,
it's a matter-state with a physicality outside. In a condition of the energy state is the Soul
with the physicality inside. In a way in this dimension, we see the created and in this we
see the creation. And this is what in real world we have not understood the separation
between the two. And this is why the plasma technology Keshe Foundation is out of line
with the present science, because we have only been taught about the physical condition.
All rules of physics is written, dictated, (:30) drilled in our head on the matter state. We
have never considered the plasma state, energy state.

And this is why I have always said fusion in the matter state is a dream which never come
true. And now we see Chinese have done 1,000 seconds of so many time higher
temperature than the center of the Sun and the rest of it, and to produce atom of whatever,
Hydrogen, Tritium, Deuterium, whatever they call it, and now that we understand the
same process, Keshe Foundation does it in a room temperature, everything else, because
we have learned how to convert and how to transmute from one to the other. This is your
Gans’s and this is your Copper. This is why our technology looks absurd because it looks
funny when you stand in front of a magician and he has a ball in the cup, and he holds
with the finger the bottle, one second you see the cup, one second you see the ball. We
have not been taught, we have not been taught the magic of energy, plasmatic field in
motion.

And at the moment, as I've said many times, M. T. Keshe, Keshe Foundation, you
Knowledge Seekers (KS) are exactly not even centimeter out than the first guy when he
said the Earth is not the center of Universe. They hung him in the church. In the house of
God. And...

<< Mr. Keshe’s audio cut here. >>

K- … Yeah, they hung him in the house of God. For what reason? Because he told the
truth. Because he understood beyond what the man was forced to accept. And we are in
the same position with the Keshe Foundation. We know more in the Knowledge of
Creation, other than the matter state. We have become aware of the energy fields. And
they crucify us, kings kill us, they put us in mental institutes, families detach themselves
from us, because we are now at a moment, with this science of understanding the world
of energy, which leads to the creation of the matter state, we are crucified. The time will
come, that when man understand the process of the energy transfer, transmutation, and
what we teach as Gans’s, and the energy side of the World of Creation, then the whole
thing will change.

Then we understand what, how the World of Creation is and collectively we go. (:34)
And that position of the change has come. 2025 is the year where the knowledge of the
energy, use of the energy, we call it a plasma, will come to be understood is as correct as
the matter-state we have considered. Till now we speak about Gans’s which is a plasma.
We speak about the transfer of energy to magnetic field which is a plasma and in that
process those who are matter-state are still sacrificing. Nothing has changed than 2,000
years ago and time of when they use sacrifice of virgins for this and that. Where in the
world of energy there are no sacrifices because it's the Creator of, we have control of.

In a promotion video which is getting done and hopefully will be completed next couple
of .. weeks, you will see how we bring this knowledge for man to understand. How we
will structure the position that man for the first time understands that the Keshe
Foundation, the knowledge of plasma, is the Knowledge of Creation and the biggest
opposition to the Keshe Foundation and the work of us comes from those who are
religious and those who want a financial profit. (:36) And the other group is the scientists
who are in the matter state and they cannot switch to understand the energy state. But the
foolish thing is, we burn the wood to get the energy. We haven't managed to get energy to
make wood. And this is what completes the cycle of the knowledge. In Keshe
Foundation, you go from matter to energy, and from energy to matter.

So, if you understand this, which I'm sure 99% of the Knowledge Seekers understood by
now, is, where is the similarities? Where does things fit into? And what is our position?
The beauty of the knowledge is in its simplicity. We go back to the fundamental
elements. You have a neutron. You have a proton. And then you have an electron. In the
body of the man, we have the STM, you have the Soul of the Physicality (STP) of the
Man, and you have the physicality of the Man.

In the world of physicality of the Man, you have in every structure within the physicality
of the Man, even in tissue of the planet, plants, even in the tissue of the stones you find
the same principle. (:38) You have the inner layer, you have the middle layer and you
have the outer layer. So the World of Creation is exactly the same but man has not
understood. This is the world of energy, this is the world of plasma, in a half physical,
half materialistic, and this is the matter state detection. But in essence everything works,
because they are all interaction of the fields, magnetic (M) fields.

You are getting crucified because the world of science and religion has blocked you,
blocked the people around you, and the rest of the world, to understand this. And they're
abusing it in the name of religion. In abusing it we understand more. And those who
became peer reviewers, stole everything and find out how they can make it to make it
show, that they are look good. Now there is no difference between religious leaders and
those who steal patents. Because the people haven't seen it, the other ones who have seen
it, like Einstein, like Stephen Hawking, and Pope. There is no difference between them
and 'thieves of Baghdad.'

Now you understand. As Knowledge Seekers, you understand this part of World of
Creation, which is being kept away, holy spirits, punishment and the rest of it. And this is
where the man lives. (:40) And where at the moment the science of man is playing with.
They have not crossed over to understand the full structure. Once you understand this,
then the next step to the whole thing, if you are now in that matter of states of
understanding was given to you as a MaGrav system without you knowing how you go
back to where it came back to. And then through this, in a way, you go back to again, that
neutron, proton and electron, or the plasma condition. There is no dimension of
physicality. And the biggest problem is, we, as Knowledge Seekers, as a scientist of the
Space, have a problem with this group, which is our doctors, our engineers, our
professors and the rest of it, because they are engineers and professors in matter state.
This is too far for their intelligence to understand.

Then you understand why I've been telling you, MaGrav systems we gave you, is not for
energy, is for you to understand the power of the fields. There is nothing in the World of
Creation which is any different than what is on this board. (:42) We showed you in a
very simple system through the structure of the STM. If you were with us in past few
weeks and months when the energy came from the Space you saw three layers in the
STM and the field. Again, if you put it in a bigger structure and go back to understanding
it, we saw the fields coming in, we saw the top layer, we saw the conversion between the
two and we saw the bottom layer, but this went to the STM, to the dimension of
physicality.

Now you understand what and how intelligent you are as Knowledge Seekers. You
understand, all you've been taught, it's for you to go and understand the whole, literally,
the whole process of the Creation. You can go this way, you can go that way, you
understand the knowledge of this way and how to come back. And for this you are
getting crucified, because you understand the process of the Creation from the Creator to
Man and from Man to the energy back to Creator. And this is what in 2025, with the
structures in our hand, we'll bring out. And one of the biggest gifts given to Man today, to
change this world of the matter state, is called President Trump of United States. You
will understand soon why and how, (:44) and how we will utilize this opportunity to
bring the knowledge of the Man to understand the Totality.

Where energies create the matter and for cycling back we go back to energy. We call this
world of the plasma physics of today, we call this the knowledge of transmutation. Where
man only at this moment of time can transport. He has not managed to understand the
vertical side has a horizontal side on the other side. The foundation of the knowledge is
set out in the three Books. The ignorance of the man looks for confirmation in
physicality. And this is why we put the sessions on Fridays a month for you to see the
confirmation in the energy side, which is your emotion, which is your thoughts. This is
what we call transmutation in dimension of the energy. And this is why whatever we put
out looks like magic. But in a way we understand this simple process.

And as a chef I have taught you everything with the same recipe on the table how to
cook. You are the chefs at the table. Ingredient is the same. All of you use copper, all of
you use zinc, (:46) all of you use salt and all of you make Gans’s, and all of you now
need to understand more, that you don't need to transfer energy into the matter energy
you can use energy in the field energy. And then when we tell you go for the trip, while
you're on the line with us, you go to the moon and the Mars. and then you says, I dreamt
about it. No darling, you didn't dream, you witnessed the trip of your Soul. Ignorance is a
bliss. And when this bliss is there you cannot do anything with it because then the
magicians use it.

And the best technology, best thing has ever happened to man, to the man of matter is,
"show me." How do you want me to show you your emotion? How do you want me to
show you your dream when you actually had the trip? This is the way ignorant
uneducated people even in the level of professors in the matter state have covered
themselves (by saying) "show me." If I make you to trip, if I make you to have an
accident, if I make you to see your grandmother doesn't count, because I don't see, this is
accident, this is what happened, this is I do it in the sleep. And when we travel into Space
majority of the time with a Man of Space we deal with those who are in this level of
understanding. (:48) This is the Universal Community and this is the man's community.
Until we don't get man to understand then the two cannot match. And this is the job of the
Keshe Foundation in 2025 to bring that merger. We use the rules and the laws of the
nations to bring this into action. You will understand, you soon will understand, the
biggest gift for the technology to be transferred to everyone is literally, if you understand,
is given to Man.

Would you like to understand the energy or would you like to suffer in the matter state?
Would you like to be locked up in the planet Earth with a passport? You can't go
anywhere, wherever you go, you're a foreigner, you're an immigrant. Don't forget, there
are two different words for immigrants, if you're a white or a black. If you're Asian,
white, Middle Eastern, you're immigrant, when you go to a country. If you're white only
you become 'expat.' Otherwise white immigrant. When you enter a border, passport
control, if you're black or other color you are a terrorist. (:50) If you are white you are a
freedom fighter. Depends on the color of your skin and the paper you carry. We don't
have this in the Space. And this is where Man will learn outside to come back and
implement it inside. Man has to be shown the vastness and the beauty of the Universe for
him to understand his ignorance and prejudices on this planet. September, October of this
year.

Now we understand how you as Knowledge Seekers understand more about the other
side and the professors in matter side they can't accept you, your families can't accept you
because they see the matter state. You have become aware of the Energy state. You've
seen the benefit of it. We gave you the Pain Pen, we gave you the MaGravs and I kept on
telling you, you plugged it in. I'm looking for the energy. Bless his Soul Jon, says, when
these people want to understand, they never stood on a correctly winded MaGravs to feel
its energy. If you understand this, if you understood this process, half of your problem in
standing resolute in your understanding is the same. It's your job to explain. (:52) Then
the work of the Keshe Foundation doesn't become magic and what you call it, 'a guru,' or
whatever and it's a 'haji bhaji.' Yes it is because the ignorance is a bliss, as long as you do
that you don't need to learn a new.

I always remember the word of the Chancellor of Sharif Tehran University and a first
launch in Iran presidential offices in 2008, 8 - 9th night of June of 2008, when President
Ahmadinejad gave a lunch for me returning to Iran, but I wasn't aware that there was a
different plan, there were five heads of universities sitting there to approve the
technology or not. The last vote was with the hand of the Tehran Sharif University
Chancellor and he said, "Mehran-jan, you have discovered gravity, but if I say yes to this
I have to stay and see your technology through the Sharif University and I'm retiring in a
few months time, I stay in the middle. You already have 4 votes, go ahead." This is the
problem. As scientists understand, but if they accept, they have to bring the change. And
this is where your Knowledge Seekers have been put in mental institute, you've been
deprived of love of the family, you've been fighting to show something can be done.
(:54) Because you always try to show what it does in the matter state, and you haven't
learned the process of conversion. Then when we show it to you, for you it's difficult to
understand, to be able to translate the language.

This simple picture on the table, learn it. And it's the key to your understanding, to be
able to enlighten the people. Where in fact if you look at it, very simple for you lot, is
this, tell them this is where all the scientists are, this is where the plasma nuclear power
is, we are one step even beyond that. Because if it's on CNN, we accept it. And soon
there'll be no CNN in deep Space, on the moon. Would you like to tune into the rubbish
talk or would you like to look at the beauty of the Creation?

And, in so many ways, is for you to understand about yourself. Energies within yourself,
how you transfer from one to another, and then what you call transmutation, sits directly
inside you, within you, within the structure, where you receive the energy of the
Universe, you balance it with the energy of the planetary system, through the STP you
create the body of the Man. And this is what you have to learn how to go back. (:56) In
this direction you will come to matter state and transportation. In this direction you are in
a way to the transmutation and plasma state fields of Universe. I made Man in the image
of myself, I manifest Myself when I need and I live in the realm of the energy to create
what I like depending where I am the chef of.

Now you understand exactly how you Knowledge Seekers have been snookered by the
ignorant people. The only difference is using the advancement into communication, you
have learned the basics of the transmutation and transportation and conversion from
energy to matter and matter to energy. And you have done it in a way that you're ignorant
to it, you have become ignorant to it. Where you put the metal and you get bits at the
bottom and you call it Gans’s, when it's actually is a plasma energy and you are working
in this region. You have leapfrogged, frog-leaped, whatever you like it, across the science
of Creation in a very simple way by a Universal Teacher. Because we know how to teach
nursery people. We know how to teach, write "A", we know how to make the first
sentence, we know how to teach you to spell the first word, and then become graduate.
(:58)

My biggest fear, I always said, and it makes people around me literally laugh is, we have
a very big problem which pops his head out in a very near future. And I tell you why and
you understand it. We have in the past centuries and thousands of years we have made
professors, doctors, priests, (they're ignorant and only) in the matter of state. Your biggest
problem as humans just starts, because once the new generation learns about the plasma
or energy in motion, then you're going to have the same professors, doctors, priests
changing the tone from the matter state (they will keep it matter state but color it a little
as plasma). Now we understand how Christ went and the rest of it and (their) ignorant.
We have a beautiful say in Farsi say << Farsi Language. >>, which means, now bring the
donkey and load it up that these people accept this lot and this lot accept this lot.

This is where your problem sits and in a way you Knowledge Seekers most of you who
understood, have made the Gans's, sit somewhere here (side of middle). And you have
understood this (about the plasma). You have bridged the gap in a small way. And that's
why you're in a big problem. But your problem starts when in a few years time we get
Universities of Man creating PhD and everything for the energy state what we call the
plasma, we call the Gans state. (1:00) (says something in Farsi ..) Now we had the war
of borders, we had the war of religions, now becomes the war of scientists, trying to show
which one is correct, which one is real and both of them don't understand when this
reduces in field strength in a matter state according to Inertia become matter, and then
when it goes to plasma Inertia become plasma.

In reality what we see in the time of coming time is in a very simple way which we all
understand, we see in a in a different way, the world of Tesla and we see the world of
Edison. And we saw how Edison brought an elephant, created the electrical chair (to
electrocute it) to show Tesla was wrong, or was right, but it was dangerous. And this
what we saw with Edison doing to Tesla, we will see coming from the religious leaders in
respect to the knowledge of the Keshe Foundation. You have not seen the resistance yet.
We have the resistance from the ignorant scientists, from the kings who want to have it.
You have not seen the resistance coming from the religious people when they say this is
criminal. Knowledge of God is not for us to understand, because then we can't be
prophets. We cannot be all the religious names (titles) we created for ourselves. You
thought you got prosecuted by your family and the friends and people around you
because of this knowledge? (1:02) You wait when the man of science stand the man of
abuses in the name of religion. And that's to come in 2025, in the back end of 2025. And
the 26 will be a battlefield between the new knowledge, and the matter state knowledge
and those who lose their position in the world of religion.

As the famous (song) says, "You've seen nothing yet." You are getting problem with the
family and the friends, they're calling you, you become a sect or whatever. I, as the
Mehran Tavakoli Keshe had to fight the kings and governments. The king plans to kill
and his proxies like Red Circle create everything to discredit and everything else for them
for you not to have. You have not seen what the religions will do to this technology.
Because through this you'll find work of the energy which gives you the understanding of
the World of Creation and the Creator. And if you understand that, do you need
intermediary? We are no gurus, we are people who understand the Science of Creation
and teaches it freely. Never a knowledge has been taught so freely, for so long, by one
man in voice and writing. (1:04) And now those of you who go even to the other level of
understanding, you tap to my Soul and you get the information and the knowledge. You
don't need the voice and you don't need the matter. Isn't this what you do when you pray
to your Creator? Or are you still in the process of making statues and hanging it around
your neck. It's you who has put yourself around your neck, your own noose of ignorance,
and not the knowledge.

We can produce as much gold as we'd like to bankrupt the World Banks. There is an old
knowledge, which if you lived in Ghana, you know it. And if you were really with the
people at the point of power in Ghana, you know it. When you go into Central Bank of
England, not the monarchy, but the Central Bank of England, there is so many hundreds
of thousands of bars of gold and 2/3 of it is stolen from Ghanaian gold reserve when the
British invaded Ghana. We can make more gold than in reserve of any bank, any nation
on this planet. And we have shown it. And it's been tested by Chinese military,
confirming it. (1:06) ?? General of China, after we did the test in 2023 in the mountains
north of China where .. (there is) a gold mine. They tried to 'dodge and dive' that we
didn't see any gold. I took scientific papers into a meeting, there were about 20, 15 of
Chinese and the representatives of the prime minister of China, the representative of the
Chinese military and the rest.

And I said to them, on the white board, I said, you see these materials which you have
given on the report? I give you a research paper, 10, 20 research papers, which says to
you, wherever you see this material, it means there is gold and silver. You as a Chinese
government officials, as generals in the Chinese military, which you control the test, tell
me where have you hidden the data for gold. You're stealing, you're thieving. And they
got offended. You can tell anything to a Chinese, but (don't) tell him he's a thief. It's the
most humiliating, degrading thing you can do to a Chinese man to humiliate him, to bring
him lower.

A few days later I was called into a meeting in Central Beijing, a huge building. Wang
Lin was with me, she's always used to translate, we don't know how much she translated
correctly or whatever. (1:08) The top ranking general came, who we know, and two
other generals which monitored came and sat on the same table. But they sit on the side
and the other side, nobody sat on the top. A gentleman who was the head of Chinese
Military Committee sat on the top, we found out later on. And the General turned around
and said, "Mr. Keshe, you have found out how to transfer energy into gold. In a different
way, you have changed materials into materials, energies to materials. And we accept that
we hidden the knowledge. Now we confirm you are correct.”

It took an insult to a government to come out with the truth on the table of discussion and
because of the humiliation there was no trust, everything stopped. Because admitting to
stealing, admitting to hiding does not leave any much room to trust. The beauty of what
we did in China is that we kept a video of these generals. And they always covered their
face that they cannot be seen but accidentally their own team sent us a video with all the
pictures on it. They didn't know at the end of the picture you see the generals. (1:10) And
one day I will release their name and their pictures.

This will be the same with the 'man of robes.' They have to hide for them to keep their
jobs. And I made one promise, before I leave this planet, I'll return the stones of Vatican
back to Coliseum. When the man was abused physically, at least he had a say in it, and he
was part of it. He wasn't abused in a hidden way. Now you understand what is about to
come and how the game is played.

In the meeting with the hierarchy, families of a leadership I was invited for dinner. I
usually don't take my phones with me that day because it was a very deep discussion.
There was a need for some information to be shown and to be seen. I carried my wallet of
telephones and we were asked to don't take anything up. We went upstairs, the leading
family and close allies to the president were on the table. These are the people we know,
we know, we've talked with for some years. (1:12) When I came down, took my bag, my
bag was hot. I said to the officials the next day, "If you wanted information on my phone,
you didn't need to download it, because you downloaded it fast, it heated up.” Americans
use a freezing condition, they use a different method. And they got insulted, that I told
them, "You're stolen, you've gone through my phones with the data." And contact was
cut, because I accused of stealing. Interesting enough, sometimes later I went to the
phone, because I had so many pictures with this family. Dinners and lunches and social
meeting. I could not find any pictures of them on my phone. But these people didn't know
that the phone gets regularly backed up, downloaded, into other servers, other hard disks.
I couldn't find it. I thought, where the heck are these? Am I dreaming? It's always been on
the phone. I went to archives, reserves, and they're all there. During the time I was there
eating, they deleted anything to be connected to them. Again, Chinese.

The world leaders who understand the power of this technology, try to block it. But that
time is gone. (1:14) The religious leaders, not your families, will be the next step for you
Knowledge Seekers who understood the process. You have to be resolute. You have to
understand the knowledge, and be kind, as I said last time, to those who find out they
made a mistake. Don't make it the point of arrogance. Elevate their Soul that they
understand faster, that they can catch up with you, that you learn from them the new
technology. We go for a break, come back and try to answer your questions.

>> BREAK >> 577 KSW February 13, 2025 (1:20).

K- … Thank you very much. First of all, we try to change the ads very soon, because
these are the old materials, I know you got fed up with it, we do, we too. And hopefully
in next few weeks you see new ads with the latest products. Another hand, as we said,
tomorrow we have a session with those of the, what I call, the footprint of the, your own
Soul, how you progressed since the last time over, you make a new fingerprint for the
future for you to compare. This session starts at 9 o'clock tomorrow and go the whole
session. You don't need anything for this session, those of you who joined us. Just
yourself. The Gans’s, we said, there is a lot of confusion, is for next Friday (not
tomorrow). (Tomorrow) this is just you and your fingerprint, nothing should be there to
be added to be in your hands or whatever. The Gans’s, which we said, we already, you
must already receive, emails for it. Gives the instructions of what Gans’s do you need,
and what you need to do, and we even advise the Knowledge Seekers, if you have a little
bit more Gans’s, bring 4 bottles with you or it will be given in your email why you need 4
bottles, only if you can do that, for next Friday Session.

We try to understand the process and we try to explain in a deeper way many things in
respect to the, what we call, knowledge of the technology. (1:22) We will introduce very
soon a new range of systems to make the transmutation much easier for the Knowledge
Seekers and set up new direction and dimension in understanding the totality of the
structure and how things sets, and how things are, and how we, what we call, change the
position and parameters of the fields around you. And how to help you to be able to, in a
way, transfer and transmute and expand the Totality.

New products in next few weeks will be introduced in a way to allowing your expansion
of the fields and how you can actually start doing it at home to make the transmutation
much easier. You have seen this technology with us in, what you call, in a bigger
structure in Linz. So it's not something that suddenly comes up to be. It's part of the
transmutation. Now the way we change, if you remember those huge UBESUS to
Headsets, we are going in the same direction now for dimension of transmutation where
you will see in new version very soon of the systems which what we call, you've seen
before. The advancement in technology and work of the Keshe Foundation has made this
possible. (1:24)

And so in the coming weeks hopefully, once we complete one size of our, one side of our
work we will bring the other side into operation for you to see and for you to be part of.
And this process is fundamental for us. As you Knowledge Seekers are reaching a point
of maturity of transmutation and understanding the changes between the matter state and
the energy state. And now we are going into a much (more) elaborate systems to be able
to bring this technology home, which means you will be able to have the same facilities
as we shown before in a much more advanced way using the Cosmic Ray materials
(CRm), the new understanding of the technology, to in a way deliver to you technologies
which will not be in the hand of the government, but in the hand of the citizens.

And then in the expanded way we will, what we call, extend the knowledge into the next
level in combination with what you have in your hands, what you have gathered as pieces
of technology over past few months and past few years, you purchased from the Keshe
Foundation. And this will be brought up in a very beautiful way, (1:26) for you to have
literally the first basis of transmutation systems at home. You want to transfer, you want
to transmute, we bring this technology in a way, in a very slow space, speed, that it'll be
in conjunction with the transportation, what you call UFOs and transportation, to be
launched at the same time. Or, we teach you prior, that it can be shown by you, in the
application and the implications in the what we call, upcoming future presentation of the
technology.
What you will see is a close, close what I call, replication of transmutation system, which
you saw in a very crude way in Linz. And our people and our scientists and researchers
and the others who we work with have matured enough and the technology has matured
that this can be introduced. In a way we are introducing to you something which what I
call, is amalgamation of the technology in the past. If you remember when we showed
these the gas production, the CO2 production, the energy production, some two years
ago. (1:28) You, and now this has changed to a suitcase size, and even smaller, and
hopefully by the back end of this year, what was in the patent of the Keshe Foundation in
2006, 2005, which is the batteries, the miniature power, plasma power generators in size
of the batteries on the back of this, reducing from these huge boxes, as you see, to a little
handheld battery in your hand. We have advanced in the same way, but we have brought
you with us, you will understand later on, that how we changed this (large system) to
another system, which is brought to be this (Headphones). And then, what you will see in
the coming time, is this (the Vertical EU). We will market this as a system that you hold
in the house. And in a portable way, very much the way we've done with this, that you
can transmute between two points, to start with in the room to room, room in your office
and the rest of it.

It will be sold as a Twin set and it will be so elaborate. It will come in a self packaged
packaging. And we will see how we will change these in the future. And we'll try to see
how we will, what we call, (1:30) elaborate on these in the processes of the Keshe
Foundation, evolution in science and technology and how these will be structured to
show their difference. So be ready for the evolution in science, evolution in what we call,
the technology which will be released by Keshe Foundation. And in that process be ready
to see huge changes to come, and to be seen, and to be in a way, next step of what we call
transportation and transmutation.

Are there any questions?

Q: … (1:32) How could we make the Gans of Vitamin D?

K- Vitamin D is a radiation. Vitamin D is a matter state radiation and it can be replicated,

it can be made. And it is rather easy to produce, very easy to produce. But you have to
understand the technology. You have to understand the application and implication of the
technology. And it's the knowledge which you already have. It's in the teaching and it
will be well taught. Understand what the purpose of vitamin D is, understand how you
absorb it, and you understand what it needs to be absorbed. (1:34)

Any other question?

Q: … How to remove from water the Hydrogen isotope known as deuterium which
accelerates the aging of human beings? How to neutralize deuterium from water?

K- You cannot neutralize it. Deuterium is a stable. You have to find a process to extract
it. More than neutralizing.
Any other questions?

Q: … About a year ago, a friend who attended a course on One Cup One Life came to me
with his little dog who was suffering from a tumor in his lower back. I gave him salts
from an old cup, copper and zinc. I told him to put them in extra virgin olive oil and then
massage the affected part, then clean and replace every day. The little dog is healed. The
question is, did the amino acids in the oil play a role in the process? Thank you.

K- Yes. (1:36) It does, it has.

R: Is the olive oil one of the better oils to use for that kind of process?

K- We can use any oil, natural oil. We can literally use any natural.

Any other question?

Q: … Hello Mr. Keshe. There is this man in Zimbabwe, Maxwell Chikumbutso, who has
developed this technology called micro sonic energy, which can power a car and generate
it generated electricity for general use. This energy, would it be similar to plasma fields
that he is caption or totally different?

K- This technology has been extended, developed by the Chinese, one of the top brands
in car industry. And he has used it on the back of television, and if you listen it was
inaugurated couple of days ago, with the President of the nation present. But
commercialization of it, as the Chinese say, has some technical problems with it. And
first of all, it talks about... it needs a battery of the whatever it is. (1:38) But what is not
known in public, which the Chinese are aware of it, they became aware of it, otherwise
this thing would have gone haywire everywhere around the world. Is that this thing is
receptive to explosion and as it receives radio frequencies, you can tune it that if you use
for let's say military cars or if the car accidentally passes in the zone that there is a
different frequency many of them have or will explode. It uses radio frequency it's a ..

I followed this guy's work for two three years it's not something new. Originally he
showed in the back of a big television screen, but they don't show the other end of it, that
the television screens literally destroyed themselves because in a certain radio frequency,
television frequencies, which this system cannot block, has created problems. The car
was shown with the president, president on the 10th, I think if I'm correct. Inauguration is
a Chinese company has picked up and they're trying to find a way to block certain
frequency ranges which actually leads to the explosion. And that's why this is one of the
problems, and it's a radio frequency.

It's amazing what this guy has got, he's got no education. He's a village boy, couldn't
carry on with the education himself, but he's coming up with some beautiful ideas. (1:40)
But again, it's radio frequency based, and is not plasma based. And I think in the next
three, four months, we'll see another system like this coming up, with I think it's a
German group, who talk about the use of Hydrogen. And that is more expensive, they
haven't managed to bring it down to a workable condition. And the same guy in Africa
has made a big flower generation of it, it's a big block. And again they have problems
with explosion of the systems, or system malfunctioning. And the Chinese company
which actually made the first prototype shown in Africa, it says they have some
reservation about this technology. And this is what the reservation is. As we see an
explosion with Tesla cars, when the battery operation. We'll see. But it is amazing what
this guy achieved.

And what you have to understand as Knowledge Seekers. I was explaining this to another
Knowledge Seeker very recently. And it is, with the Keshe Foundation, with the extent of
the technologies we cover, we always see different people with different ideas which are
all correct, coming up. There is, the guy who does this, you cannot bring him into other
side, the same with the other things. (The radio frequency T is limited. Whereas ..) The
technology of the plasma technology applies into energy, food, agriculture, Space travel,
life in Space, production of materials. (1:42) And when you cover some such a range,
what you call, a wide range of technology and sciences, you always see people coming
up with things in parallel, or the same, or use other materials to do the same. The
principle is that with this technology you cover everything. And very soon you will see
one system which not only produces energy, it produces material, it produces food, it
produces fields and motion, the same as Earth. Our scientists are maybe 2 to 3 months
away from this position.

As we said, we have produced Oasis, which is one of the most important things. Then,
using the plasma technology, as our colleague just said, one of our friends, how do you
produce Vitamin D? In that system, you produce Vitamin D and you can have the water
with all the minerals and vitamins you like, if you like to drink it, or you stand next to it,
then you absorb the energy, or receive and give. And at the same time, the system is set
to lose weight and fly. And this is part of the structure of this technology.

We always, we cannot be arrogant, say we are the only solution, and I'm sure, as we have
seen, with our own technology, has been taken, has been modified, new knowledge's has
been added to, and new technologies comes out of it. And that's why we brought in a,
what we call, open transparent teaching. We can't be prejudiced, is it the same, is it going
to change? (1:44) You put this technology (radio frequency) and let him to fly, he cannot
do. You put this technology and say, "Grow food with it", he cannot do. Where you use
the Gans’s and you've seen the agriculture, you use the Gans’s, and you've seen for the
Wellness and the rest of it. And we never had a problem in sharing technology. And we
have to respect other scientists who come up with, their own intellect, their own
understanding.

We will see, I'm sure, in the next decade or so, a lot of mixtures of the Gans technology,
plasma technology, with the matter state technology. We do it, you... What do you think
your MaGravs are? You use a Copper, you use the Nano coating, you use a field plasma,
and you create different conditions and energies. And this is the principle behind it. And
we are not into discredit someone, (by saying) we are better, no. We brought a
fundamental knowledge. And with it, it'll come, changes, and at the same time, as I
always said, there are other technologies. And as long as you are open-minded, you
understand this, you have no problem. And we have to be open-minded. And this guy has
done a lot of work. I followed his work because he originally showed other things. He,
they showed the television, big screen television with the unit on the back of it. And he
says this is where the plug goes in. But it's un-commercialized, it has huge explosion
problems, of absorption of different frequencies, and in a way, it can be targeted. This is
the problem with it, intentionally or unintentionally. (1:46) As I was talking to some
people in the car industry, there's going to be a lot of recalls if you know how to radar it.

Any other question?

R: Okay…

K- (Continues) … Let me, let me, let me explain something to you. As I said in past few
weeks, I said it last week, we have shown how using a technology, plasma technology,
we have literally not destroyed, we have wiped out, or we have short-circuited a
microchip, with observation from the government scientists. And he (African inventor)
uses a microchip, he uses electronics. And you can see where the next step sits. With the
plasma technology, you cannot destroy (it), if you understand the process. You can create
a new conditions, and because of the diversity of the fields it gets absorbed in. And this...
anything electronic in the coming time has a disadvantage in respect to plasma
microchips.

It's still in the patents of 20 years ago you can find it. With the plasma microchip, you
absorb the energy and you transfer it or release it. In the matter microchips, you have
these kinds of problems, matter state problems, and the fields within the matter state
problems. (1:48) He doesn't use any solar cell. He doesn't use anything fancy. It all sits
inside the system. He actually the principle behind it is, he understood, if you don't
understand the technology. He actually studied the work of Professor Miles in Germany.
He has created a condition where it works on the scalar wave, which means absorbing
energy and the what you call matter-state frequencies. That's all he does. And that's all
he's done. And you don't need a huge box.

As I said before, if you remember a few years ago, when he came to Ninove in Belgium
in a conference we gave, where Professor Miles himself, made a presentation, when I was
in Germany with him. He showed me a little bathtub, children, what you call, summer
pool, small one, with a little boat on it. And he had a system on top of the second floor
and he said, "Look, the machine works and it's not Tesla's work." As always said, Tesla
discovered the Magnetical, Miles has discovered the 'scalar wave', is Gravitational.
(1:50) In a way, it's a Black Hole, but that Black Hole only works with the matter state
frequencies, and doesn't need more than a pinhead to be.

And this guy has achieved that, and he's done it very, very nicely. But still he has matters
of microchips and everything else with which can... it can be damaged by radio
frequencies, at a certain length, very quickly. And this is why, is one of the major car
producers in China, has not launched it yet into the rest of the world, they just made two,
three prototype, for this guy, for the nation, to show Africans can break through
technology as well. But he has a lot of beautiful things done, he describes amazing in
what he understands. He's found the principle and he works on that principle. He can
miniaturize it. It's good for Africa to be done but at the same time, it has, what you call it,
beautiful job which has been done. It just uses the scalar waves.

Don't forget, scalar waves was used by Tesla in a different way, creating an Infinity Loop
between his tower in Moscow and his car in New York. The way Tesla hid this was
beautifully done and he created this scalar wave, but he never understood how it worked.
(1:52) This was amazing how Tesla never understood this, but he saw the working he
understood. But he never understood the backbone to this. That's why he couldn't come
up with a scalar wave. He always considered it had to be one way. He put his tower in,
they say, wherever in Moscow, wherever, and his car in New York. He created, in a way,
what Einstein later on said, the, what you call, the magnetic fields. He made a very, very
small motor here, a very plasma powerful generator here, and these two did this (created
an Infinity Loop between them). And that's why he could receive energy.

We say the plasma gives all this from big to the small. But he used his connection of
Infinity Loop between the two. And he never considered that this direction of the field (??
M) is different than this direction of the field (G). And for giving out you need a slightly
higher energy. And I explained this very recently to one of our Knowledge Seekers. We
can build the Tesla Tower tomorrow. I know how it's built and it can be replicated very
quickly. But has a problem that if you put too many uses to it, it will not meet the
demand. It has a problem with it, inherent problem in magnetic field transfers this way
(?? back to the tower). This uses concentration of the fields, and then when you split it, it
has this problem. That's why Tesla, when he made his second car, it wouldn't run. And
this is the understanding of it, that how it works. (1:54) And you can take this tower on
the moon. It still will feed the car.

This guy is working on this end, the South Pole, and what professor Miles explained as a
scalar waves. If you surge it, they cannot put a filter on it. They've tried. The Chinese
have tried to filter it. They filtered some of the frequencies. Because once you go a
certain bandwidth, it'll start emitting energy out. But if you go a certain bandwidth, it
releases energy. It absorbs more energy, and then it explodes. This guy has studied the
work of Miles and Tesla, and he's come up with this in a miniature way, only on a
frequency basis, not a magnetic field basis, or matter state.

In a way, if you stop the satellites, if you stop broadcasting, one of the problems with the
Chinese found out, you cannot run this system in deserts a long distance away from
satellites and from radio frequencies. He has that disadvantage. It's very good we can
have a mass surge in the cities. The way your antenna dies with your mobile phone, this
is one of his disadvantages of this system he's developed. He needs a saturation
environment for it, but these are pitfalls they're trying to sort out. And they're working on
it very hard. It's a major... they put millions of dollars developing this. They... if you've
seen it, they say it's just a few built, and then you will see restrictions, you cannot charge
it. (1:56) They need to add a charger to it later on. There is a possibility that Starlight
will be connected to it, but you put a lot of pressure on their system, if they support such
a system. The Tesla system with satellite, they are looking at it, and this has this problem.
You cannot support. Radio frequencies need to be created somewhere, noise needs to be
created somewhere. And it relies on the cities, and in remote places when there is not,
you cannot charge, the battery cannot run, that's why they use a battery to charge. And
they say they have no battery, but they have created a storage for the energy, the way
they produce it. But it's amazing, from a literally illiterate man, with no knowledge, being
kicked out of school, coming up with this technology.

Any other question?

Q: … Mr. Keshe you said... if I'm not correct, if I heard it correctly, you said Mr. Trump
is going to... president is going to help us to release your knowledge publicly in the future
because I know...

K- … Can you repeat?

Q: … You said Trump is going to help us to release your knowledge shortly.

K- No, no, no. The condition created by his presidency will do that, not himself.

Q: Okay. (1:58) Because the guy was talking yesterday in the White House and I think
he's the most stupidest person I've ever met and he was talking about the aircraft carrier
they just built. They were supposed to build... They were supposed to spend 5 billion,
they spent, I don't know, 30 something billion, he said, because they used a magnet. And
the magnet, sometimes it works to lift or carry planes, and sometimes, and I said, because
you scientists and yourself, they're both stupid, because if you use a magnet in a matter,
of course the magnet is going to be affected by the field around it, but if they use it in a
plasma, it's going to work like a clock. But these guys are so just arrogant.

K- No, it's just what they give them. The guys fix about 100 different topics in half an
hour. They are not actually (?? scientists) .. they are just talking about what they have
been told (to talk about). This new aircraft carrier which is on the talk, has very advanced
technologies, it carries a nuclear, and the rest of it. And is a combination of different
technologies they use. But amazing enough it takes 5 seconds to disable the system. It
takes less than 5 seconds to disable the system. It will be a tub on the oceans. With
plasma technology, if you understand it, naval forces are a very good places to have an
island just put them somewhere because they can't go anywhere in the future.

Q: … (2:00) Dear Mr. Keshe and Rick, you have explained in previous training courses
that the Magnesium Gans can be used to restore harmony in the home. Does this Gans
also work if a person lives alone and feels lonely? Or would it be better to use a
combination of CO2 and Zinc in this case?

K- Can you repeat?

Q: … You have explained in previous training courses that the Magnesium Gans can be
used to restore harmony in the home. Does this Gans also work if a person lives alone
and feels lonely? Or would it be better to use a combination of CO2 and Zinc in this
case?

K- Magnesium is usually on its own.

R: Okay is that the is that the end of your answer on that one?

K- Yes.

Q: … vitiligo is a disease that causes loss of skin color in patches … (2:02) Can the
problem of vitiligo illness be resolved through plasma? If the answer is yes, please guide
how.

K- Can you bring on your Wikipedia?

R: Wikipedia.

K- Rick, can you read the messages and you private on telegram?

R: … Okay, vitiligo is a disease that causes loss of skin color in patches. The discolored
areas usually get bigger with time. The condition can affect the skin on any part of the
body. It can also affect hair and the inside of the mouth. Normally, the color of hair and
skin is determined by melanin.

K- You can use Gans’s, if you know what you're doing. I have spoken about this, some
years ago, in the teaching. The Iranian scientist, years ago, developed a technology to
overcome this temporarily. (2:04) And that is by taking the skin of an aubergine
(eggplant) and boiling it. And then dab, mix it with oil and then dab it on the skin. And it
lasts usually about four to eight weeks, they say. And gives, you have to tone it to the
color of your skin that you don't see it. And it works. And this is a scientific work they've
done. On the Keshe Foundation side, we don't get involved with these things, especially
in teaching. But yes, there is a way you can do. There is a process you can do, but again,
we don't get involved on the health section of the technology.

R: I think you mentioned at one point in the past, that it's not something that you really,
really need to change. It's sort of the Soul has decided that, and it's sort of that deeper
connection there. Is that possible?

K- In a way, yes. Our physicality is a sign of interaction of our Souls with our
environment.

Any other question?

K- … (2:06) Did you read my message, Rick?

R: Yes, I see that, thank you.

Q: … Hello Mr. Keshe, my friend broke his kneecap a long time ago and now has a
splinter that travels back and forth in his knee. Can he use the Knee Gans and is there a
chance that the splinter will find its place again and grow back?

K- Again, write to Dr. Kern. He will answer.

R: So, just for future reference, people that have health questions will need to go through
the Keshe Foundation.

K- These are the doctors, these are the Wellness Centers. They know how to answer.

Q: … How to create the Gans of Magnesium… Can we create it by putting a Chlorine of

Magnesium, I guess Magnesium Chloride or other Magnesium salts with CO2 Gans?

K- You can produce Magnesium and if you can produce it from foods, you can produce it
from vegetables, I think from broccoli, some people know, some Knowledge Seekers
have done. We produce Magnesium in different ways, so much of it in different versions
of it. You have to find out what Magnesium is short of. How your Magnesium is
connected to what. (2:08)

You got to understand a lot of knowledge is out there, we can use it, and there is a lot of
knowledge that if you add it to the knowledge of plasma, you can benefit ?? by it in a
different way, in a beautiful way. You have to understand what you needed, the way you
need it, and what purpose you need it. And you've got to remember your body is a
composite of what man calls 'the same.' You breathe the same air and if you don't exhale
the same rate as you take in, in a different strength than it should be, you get pneumonia.
You get water in your lung. But it's the same air. You change its composition and it
produces water.

In a way I said to a doctor, you know, what's the difference between you not
understanding the process of the water in the lung? And now as a plasma scientist we
understand the, what we call, the process of creation of energy to matter. I said it's only
15 degrees. He looked at me as I was a man from the Mars. I said, you change the way
your patients are on the bed, (2:10) pneumonia and you empty the lungs with water
every 2 liter, 5 liter, every few days, just change the bed's position by 15-20 degrees. You
don't need to do so. Because the way the patients are put in the hospitals, the lung
pressure rises, create, changes, converts, whatever you want to put it, and the CO2 into
water. And if you understand the process, it's very simple. It's the same as the guru who
was moving different directions, setting up and changing his body, was in posture and he
was feeding himself. These are the things we have to understand what you need it for.

They tell you, you are short of Magnesium you take a tablet but the Magnesium has a
spectrum of vegetation solid and a spectrum and amino acids of what you call human
meat. Which one is your body missing short of? You eat meat, then you eat vegetable
with it, and then you eat what you call it, a tablet. But in fact you are not need to eat one
of them because your body saturation is short of the other one. (2:12) It's very much the
way they have influenced us in understanding, because that way the structure can be used
or abused. If you understand the science and we need to understand the science and what
they give, to what they tell us to benefit themselves.

They tell us don't smoke nicotine. Don't smoke because of nicotine. But why all of us in
all races and colors and shapes are addicted, use extensively nightshade fruits, vegetables
and the rest? All the nitrate, more or less all, majority of them, carry nicotine. Tomato is
one of the top, I think, three or five nicotine content fruits. Aubergine (eggplant).
Nightshade foods are very high in nicotine. Why did the nature bring it to us? You see
how you feel after you eat these kind of foods just with nightshade nicotine content. On
the Internet they'll give you a full list of it. But they say don't smoke. When nicotine in
vegetable, in greens or whatever roots, is part of controlling our neuro system. Otherwise,
we won't eat it. (2:14) It's the way the knowledge you can ?? wait.

Nobody, more or less, had cereals in the morning. One advertising brought a cereal into
the life, that you eat it, you have all the energy from it. And in fact, it gives you every
other disease than you could ever imagine what goes on these things. You just get a corn
crushed and eat it, see how much you would like to eat it every day. The additives, the
reports, they talk about the spikes in the sugar, diabetic and every other illness comes. I
still have, but I used to store as part of my old operation. For one of the top brands in the
world, cereals, they used to store their certain materials, they didn't want to be in their
premises, in our warehouse. And there were a couple of hundred of these boxes with 4
plastic bottles in these boxes, each one about 1 to 2 kg. And on a regular basis, because
the factory was maybe 5... less than 5 kilometers from our storage depot. I ?? would just
come, open a box, sign and seal the box, to all the paper documentation, and take one
bottle out. And knowing these people out of curiosity, I asked, "Why this is carried like
gold, why do you... (2:16) Why so much secrecy and control on this and why you keep it
with us? You have warehouses, you have all your packaging and you can put these
boxes.” One day the guy told me something, he said, "One of these bottles lasts us so
many weeks, we add the minute, minute amount of it to everything we produce for
breakfast cereals. And it's highly, highly toxic. That's why we treat it this way, we don't
keep it, because we need regulations, you can, because under your license you can carry
these things.” They were literally, they know, if you can imagine, they put in hundreds,
thousands of breakfast packages around the world, and they just need one bottle for it, 2
liters. Diluting to dilution of dilution of dilution, and what poison does it carry? But they
brought us the school of thoughts that you need breakfast. It was a fashion, breakfast,
having cereal in the morning. It was they built in our head and we all do.

And there's a lot more research on diabetic spikes. They did a research around 1980s, that
they took box of cornflakes, energy wise, and it's cardboard packaging, you got more
energy out of the cardboard packaging, than the cornflakes, what you call it, the flakes
inside it. (2:18) And they control how we get addicted to these things. Mineral content is
a way of control. If you walk on the street, sometimes they give you, they do a sample
test. Do you mind if you tell us, you like this, you like that, which one is nicer? And you
say, "Yeah, yeah.” I give it to you. You know, you taste a few and give them a few ideas.
Yes, no, whatever. They actually, what they control is the salt content. And they want to
see how many people are more in favor of the salt content. And with that salt content,
they control. This is why major burger chains you addicted to and you like to go to that
one especially, the majority of the percentage of it is because of their salt, the content fits
into your spectrum. Many people will not go to one brand, they always go to another
brand because they don't like this. Because they tune into, and most of our foods are
sodium based, and now energy based coloring content.

And this is what you have to watch. What you're using, what way you're using, and the
reason you're using anything as minerals of vitamins or whatever. And as humans are a,
are a race has been a mixture of everything from air, wind and fire of this planet, we have
to serve all of it. When you choose a mineral or a vitamin or anything on that spectrum,
(2:20) you have to understand we came from the Earth, we rely on this mineral. We came
from eating the vegetables, we again has the same mineral but in a different spectrum.
And then you have the meat side. And then there is one part which is missing in the
world of science of today is the air we breathe. It still carries, let's say, Magnesium. But
we have to know how we digest it. And you have to feed the full spectrum.

Any other question?

Q: … Yesterday I was discussing about one thing that I learned in the, in a class about
physics matter, matter state. And I want to understand in the plasma science. So, you said
that if one person transmutes, the others will learn more easily. And I was remembering a
physics class where they taught about the Compton effect, which means that when
radioactive energy is applied to an electron, it changes its layer but releases energies. So
I'd like to understand in the plasma science this kind of energy that's released, if this
energy will like elevate the Souls around the people that .. have more energy than the
others, (2:22) like with the sessions and with this kind of things.

K- Repeat yourself, I think you answer yourself.

Q: I think yes. But I don't know, it's this kind of understanding, it's existing plasma
science. So, because you...

K- It applies but you have to understand how to apply it. That's the key. You know I
think in your own talk, I think you saw the answer.

Q: But is it like, it's the high energy or have like an angle and everything else?

K- It all .. diversity, we get things from every direction. It's 360 degrees spherical. It's
literally 360 spherical. We get everything we can imagine from all directions.

Q: And this is near to happen?

K- What do you mean?

Q: Like, (2:24) what this person could release this energy for all?

K- In a way you can, but if you understand how to use your Central Energy, yes. We call
it intention. You understand? You intend something happens, you can release the same
way, energies, vitamins and everything else. And it's just understanding the process.
Literally. Your intentions are very powerful things in filtering out. I .. I said once, which
is in a way you understand in a plasma way, intentions are the filters. You target. And if
you target, you, and you know how to target, you know how to bring energies to it, you
achieve it. There's no difference between absorbing energy, giving somebody energy, or
what you call it, receiving it. It's just what your intention is to receive or to give.

Some Knowledge Seekers who've been through these Friday sessions and they see, many
of them, that they see energy coming to them. They don't, they see absorption of, we have
many testimonials, that people weeks after, months after, still see, weeks after, days after,
they don't need to eat, they see energies coming to them because the body calls you have
no intention of. (2:26) But the intention of the Soul of the body is that, they're what I
need. I have shown this in demonstration with a system which I built years ago. You can
target what vitamin, what energy absorbed by which part and accordingly is like your
kidney absorbs certain energy for itself and the liver immediately above it, it has a
different gravitational field absorbs different energy from the environment.

One of the reasons that we have so many diseases complications in our digestion area,
our stomach and hip area, is sometime, if you understand, when you get too fat, you got
too much fat, absorbing the energies which is need to get to the kidney, doesn't get or is
different, or kidney gets, what we call, protein around it, so you filter certain, so the
kidney goes bad, but in fact the energy is absorbed from the environment to it, but it
doesn't reach it so in a way it rots. And by intention you can change it, by intention you
can bring it into it till it does itself, and then do the next and the body sorts itself out. And
we have to do this in Space anyway. We learn it how to do it in Space and our body
absorbs certain field strength, which does affect it more or less. (2:28)

We had a number of surveys or reports, scientific research, done with Corona, confirming
this. It seems that people of the certain blood type are more receptive to Corona. These
are the research papers which is done since then, we see certain type of damage to certain
organs from certain blood types with Corona which is a virus. So in the Space we have to
monitor this. We're passing through the Space, we have to keep a constant field that
certain people because of certain fields they the path through does not get certain diseases
or certain changes. And we know this fully. We understand this fully.

It's like when you have a pancreas and then you have a liver cancer. What we see as the
expansion of the liver or changes in the pancreas, what we call, material which is
released. It will give us the, or tells us what a condition of the digestion system is. All
your life you have a certain color stool, but when you have of your pancreas through
diseases, damaged or whatever, or when you have like liver cancer, with the pancreas
cancer, you see the color changes and the doctors literally by the color of the stool tell
you how long you got left to live. (2:30) Many of people with pancreas liver cancer.
Doctors just ask what a stool says and you don't see it, but ask the nurse to look after you.
What color is it? It's orange and then it goes to yellow and then it goes to creamish and it
goes to the whitish and that's when you die because it means the system is not absorbing
anything, releasing total energy. The more ?? , the brighter the color, which goes towards
the white and, some people even have a transparent stool in certain diseases.

We have shown and we'll show again, that, we gave you the MaGravs, and you looked at
the energy size. And I saw the greed of people how they wanted to save you. How they
missed the point for the MaGravs too. But if you design a MaGrav in a specific way and
you literally be in touch with it, contact with it, it gives you all the energies you need.
You need to expand the Soul, or you need to expand the physicality. I'll show you
something which I am going to just one second. For security reasons, we have put a cover
on it because this is as you know we are trying to be good in delivering what we say and
we are getting good at it, especially with more complicated systems. (2:32)

Many of you have bought this new system which is going to be used by you, different
Knowledge Seekers, in the next few days in different conferences. If you look at this, the
two black signs here, because they are customized per name, so they blacked out the
name, as you see on it, it says MaGrav Twinity, Cosmic Ray MaGrav Twinity system,
but the interesting with this is this, these two pieces (sticking out of the system), it's the
same on the other side. This was the purpose of the MaGravs in a way developed
partially is one of the system, but internally where you place your hand, I explained this
last time, now it's physically here you can see. You place your hand on what you call it,
on these two, or if I bring the picture in, let me take this out so that you understand, These
are units which are going out this week. There is the same combination on the other side,
which means you have a connection here, and there's a connection on the other side.
(2:34) And then you have a connection here, and you have a connection on the other side.
You literally can, and you feel it, all of you will feel it. It's amazing what you're going to
feel, is if you connect, hold these two, connect these two together or connect these two
together, put one hand here and one hand here and one hand here and one hand there or
put one hand on either side, you will get different condition of emotion, even
information.

And these are the new units, Twinity System, and every single one has, is named, that's
why we put this black pieces here, as you see, that do not share this with no one. The
name of the users are given to us, and we put a name on it. I think it's, everything is in
there. Because this is going with you. And each one comes in its own packaging, you get
it, don't let anybody touches it. And I know, I think about 20 ?? going to sessions in next
couple of days for a session. So, this will have an arrow on it, supposed to have an arrow
on it, I don't see it, maybe it's on the other the side, where it tells you if you want to be in
the dimension of physicality, you, what you call it, you put it on this side. .. (2:36) If
you have the sign of physicality on this side, and there is another arrow on the other side,
or the same side, if you go into the energy. And this is important. Do you want to only
stay on a physical dimension, or do you want to stay on an energy dimension? And then
what you have to do, you have to turn this unit upside down.

This is one of the new systems we put up and it has huge implication. And this is used for
one of the conferences, I think, 20 ?? going out. And they'll teach you how to reach it.
You cannot use the Headphones or any other thing. Better if you have a Headphone don't
try to use it with this because they are not linked for, and we advise you not to. Then, one
side increases your, what we call, the absorption of the physical part, and the other side is
for the energy part. And do not share this system with no one, not even your cats or dogs.
If you can put it under a chair, and if you sit above it, (2:38) then hold your hands on the
two. Don't sit on the units that break. Put something on top, a stool or something. And
then try to do the same. and see how the energy field of the system will touch you. We
can produce ?? about , a lot of energy which touches literally your Soul. This is different
than the units with the, what you call it, with the two Headsets and the rest. This is a
teaching process.

It's called the MaGrav Twinity. Then you'll see what you can use. There is… this will…
one of the ways we try to, for you to understand yourself and energy transfer within you.
If you remember, the other units which we put out, again that's the energy development,
and if you remember there are two patches, which you use to hold on either side. Now,
technology development gives us the opportunity to be able to bring in the Soul and the
STP into operation. And this is the beauty of it. And how can you feed one or change
one. And you just do it with the intention, with the emotion. Very interesting, in this there
is a characteristics for energy, emotion. (2:40) We specifically have conditioned one for
food, it's totally vegetarian, there is no meat or fish, whatever is involved in there,
because we don't know who is vegetarian and who is not, so there is an element of
feeding yourself, see how your habit changes in eating or in or if you are hungry you can
go to the system. Do you want to feed the Soul side or do you want to feed the physicality
side? This is in simplicity one of the most complicated systems we have put out ?? . It's
an "Oasis" of the Soul, if I call it that way, Twin's with.

Any other question?

Q: … I have two questions. When you talk about energy field this is something is
happening recently. So, I really know what is the reason for it like, for example
sometimes when you talk, like you say a sentence or a paragraph, suddenly, you know, I
feel the energy in my body and my heart races. Or recently, I was watching a movie
about the Prophet Yusuf. And suddenly, as I was watching and he's talking about
something, the energy field comes from the TV, comes and I can feel it comes to my
body, my heart rate goes up. I just like feel something different and I don't know what is
happening at those moments.

K- I think, knowing you, a lot of young men used to do the same to you when they were
young in university. It's the emotion which touches you.

Q: The emotion of the person?

K- Yeah. How did you fall in love? You feel energy. It's the same thing. (2:42)

Q; But it's a prophet on the TV, I mean...

K- It's an emotion of connection of thoughts. Why do you pick up a picture of your child
and brings back all the emotions, or you pick up a picture of your mum, or a scenery it
brings back tears to your eyes? It's just a picture. We... it's the same thing, it brings
emotion. The words, the pictures has that power. Don't forget when you take a picture of
someone, you by intention or by observation you connect because it's part of the energy
they gave that is registered on that piece of paper. A letter is the same, the music is the
same.

Q: You know that's what I understand because you know sometimes if I am like a guru I
really like his words and I look in I see a picture and I look into the eyes and I stare in it. I
can, the eyes become alive to me. I mean I can feel the eyes looking at me as if he's right
in front of me. I can understand this because I'm focusing on it but something that I have
no intention suddenly moves toward me and it was just for me.

K- Can I ask you a question? Something... maybe some of the Knowledge Seekers have.
Do you ever had a situation that you see the image and you... it's like, you know, the new
television system... see thousands of dots and then makes the image. But in the shape of
three-dimensional in front of you. Have you ever had that experience?

Q: Can you say that one more time? I didn't get it.

K- You see, you see, you don't see a physical image. (2:44) You see an energy image,
but it has bits of physicality presentation down to it. This, in the future, the more
Knowledge Seekers become aware of the operation of the fields, the more you will see.
It's like a three dimensional picture and body that moves around but it's not fully energy
that you feel it. You actually visually can see it.

Q: Mr. Keshe what I do I can tell you this if I stand on the balcony and then stare I mean
I look at the tree, suddenly a fog comes, takes everything and then suddenly everything
comes and fog goes and some things all the trees and everything comes more closer, like
I can look at the tree but it just moves in and out.

K- That's to do with your eye, get your eyes check. But in real life, you're sitting down,
you're somewhere, you see it's not an image, but it's a real physicality of energy, with like
a speck of dust in it, if you want to put it that way. You're aware of the presence. This
happens to me quite a lot. I see both dimensions, I see the energies. And it's not that, "Oh,
can you see this?" I mean, no, it's just that, in many, it's just like somebody in front of
you, is not that you say, "I feel the energy." You, partially, are aware of existence of ...
another person with you.
Q: I think Mr. Keshe, also, there is some stuff, I think you reluctant to tell us, (2:46)
because, I feel like you might think, we might get scared, because, you know, we talk
about, a lot about dreams and what the dream mean, and everything. But, I'm 100% sure
now what I'm, um, is happening is really is the truth. And because, because you never
told us, because you said when you dream, it means when you go to sleep because of the
circulation, there's called comes under physiological, um, activity in the body goes lower.
The Soul has, um, you know, can get out and have access to everywhere can travel
everywhere. Okay. So for example you say I want to see my grandmother, I want to see
my uncle who passed away, you can go see them. But now my experience tell me when I
go to sleep, from the time I fall asleep, if I sleep five hours, six hours, seven hours, from
the time I go to sleep, I go to different world and constantly activities happening. I don't
remember most of them.

K- You do that even now talking to me.

Q: No, no, just wait a minute until I finish. You see, when I wake up, like for example,
when I wake up, say I'm in a market and I'm talking to someone and I come out at like
five in the morning, come sit on my cushion to meditate, right there, suddenly I fall back
into the same scenario. I'm continuing with the person I was talking to. And then this
morning I woke up because I put my alarm clock for three o'clock come and listen to you.
I was, when I wake up suddenly like this, I remember that. So I was, I was, it was a like a
metal piece. I was heating it up and it was really red, and I took care of a cloth and I was
bending it because I want to give it a shape and suddenly I woke up. So if I like here
when I was listening to you when I got if I fall asleep I go back to the same scenario. I'm
doing it, so it means, so it means that my Soul has another life someplace else. (2:48)

K- Yes, yes, that's exactly what, exactly what I told you, I'll explain to you. When you go
home and you start cooking and cleaning, does your physicality run on the street too? Or
you carry on with the same? It's the same thing, your Central Energy, you call it a Soul, is
what you call it, lives its own life. It carries on. If somebody opens the door he says, "Oh
you are chopping onions" and he goes out and comes back, he still comes back two
minutes later, "You're still chopping onions" It hasn't changed that you haven't, you
haven't stopped chopping it and nothing has stopped because he went out. The only
person who goes out is ignorant to you chopping the onion, it's you because you're in it.
And your physical side of awareness of your brain is that guy comes have a look and
goes, that you're still chopping the onions. You understand? And we are chopping onions
all our life we then we go to make the soup with it and the rest in the dimension of the
Soul but our physicality comes and goes and have a look and people, are you okay? It's
like your child. You know, how are you doing, how is going. And this is what we have to
understand. What we see and remember in a physical life of what we call, our dream is us
popping in, opening a door, but the Soul is living its life. And its life, yours is limited to
the village, to the house, to the car, to the city you live and to the planet you travel. That
guy has no limitation. You see an alien, tomorrow you're cooking, the day after you're
with mom, but you travel to see the mom at the speed of the Soul. And then you observe,
(2:50) "Oh, I'll go back and come back and I'll still carry on." Yes, you're still chopping
onion. It's your husband outside coming in and looking, "How long are you going to cut
onion?" "I'm still here in the kitchen because it's part of the process. That's the difference.

Q: Mr. Keshe is fascinating because you know when I go to this because I'm so actually
at night I'm more busy doing than the daily because…

K- You are busy 24 hours a day.

Q: I'm very busy, I'm very busy actually I'm doing different a culture like sometimes my
brother and ?? Suni with me sometimes other people are with me I mean sometimes
you're with me and I just like and just like my god it's just so when I go to sleep actually
is not a sleep it's just a different life.

K- Now you know how I live for past 50 years. Doesn't stop. Does not stop, because you
accept the life on both side, or not accepting it you're aware of both sides, But if you have
ever had this to, it's literally walking with you, with somebody, you sit on the sofa and
you see it coming through the corridor it just comes through the wall. But you see, these
are not dreams, these are not going crazy. This is understanding that other lives Universal
lives don't need manifestation of physicality. Or in certain conditions, at certain
wavelength, they reflex, as you know, you buy these clothing, especially for children,
which have little, little circle of metal on it and as you turn it, it bright, shines and then it
gets dark. It's like those (reflectors) and it needs a lot of understanding and you learn a lot
from these experiences.

Any other questions? (2:52) Or shall we call it a day?

R: Well we have a couple questions left but…

K- Yeah, let us see what they are… Rick please do that what I told you is very important,
immediately. Even it means taking them off and then all ??,

<< Mr. Keshe tries to send a picture to Rick on private. >>

Q: … I have two questions today. In the 575th Knowledge Seekers Workshop you
revealed the concentric layers in the brain, starting with the Soul in the center, then the
hormones, then emotions, and then the body on the outside. Where do our memories
reside in relation to these layers? Where do we receive them? And where do we create a
wall of resistance to prevent access to them? Thank you. (2:54)

K- Emotion. We make the wall of access by emotion. The way we create our cancers
with emotion. That's all it is. We don't want to... We had a very interesting case of
understanding in the Alzheimer's, where the family and the people get concerned about,
the person is disturbed. But in fact, now they have to face what they wanted to forget, and
it creates some traumas. But if you go into detail and ask them, they tell you it's exactly
what they didn't want to remember. And now, with opening the structure, they have to
deal with it, and they don't want to. So it becomes a problem, there is wrong with what I
did or what you do or whatever.

We create emotional barriers. That emotional barriers sets the... I can put it in a way, in
the physical part when we have a problem with our daughter for example as a mother or
our mother we get the cancer on the left side, scientifically said so. You have a problem
with your son or a daughter which you wanted to be a son, you get a prostate cancer. Or
something you cannot accept as a man, you get it. That's your physical part. In the
emotional side, you change the Carbon, so you block the information. In the body of the
man, the end of the nerve is the conversion of the Carbon at the end, no difference.
(2:56) In the brain, you do the same. And then, they say, "Oh, they see patches in your
brain." The neuro system controls your emotion and physicality or what your senses in …
in physicality and the emotion does the same in the brain. And then we see patches say
this is connected to Parkinson's or Alzheimer's and everything else.

Your emotion changes it, where you get chopped your finger and then you have a pain
and then you have that's... and that's a physical part. Here you do with the emotion. And
I've seen this many times, many, many times, people with, especially Alzheimer's, have
this dilemma when they start processing. They have to accept it and it's very hard. This is
what I didn't want to remember. I created conditions for it. But the plasma technology
overrides the condition. Now you have to handle with emotion. And a lot of them come
up with, "I'm sick. I've never been like this." But ask one simple question. Have you
faced your what I call, "demon" as I call it? Isn't this what you wanted to forget? That's
why you created Alzheimer's.

You look at the... especially, especially we see in women. It's very prominent, majority of
it we see in women. (2:58) Their lips shake, like Parkinson. Sit down and talk to them. It
could be continuous, or it could have been one occasion, we tell them when it started.
And take them back, whatever, we know how to do it with our system. They've never
been allowed to speak their mind. Just shut up, you don't know what you're talking about.
And then see the husband and behavior between the two. I want to talk but I cannot talk
because you know, I'm always wrong, I've been told so. The mouth shakes, wants to
speak. And you call it a Parkinson. Find the psychological reason behind it, you'll see it's
gone. Feed the Soul that it feeds the emotion of physicality, it's easier to solve.

Any other questions?

Q: … In the past you've explained that minerals of various isotopes have very different
effects on the body and that a plant source, animal source, and elemental source are all
different. You mentioned, for example, that adequate calcium is required to support
strong musculature. On the other hand, we have learned that the thymus, thyroid, lymph,
and bone work together to balance our minerals in the plasma condition. So the question
is, is there a place for mineral supplementation and can levels be accurately evaluated?
(3:00) The question breaks.
K- Yes, doctors know how to do it. Doctors fully know how to do it. Doctors know fully
how and what to measure. You see the problem is alternative medicine has been or what
we call alternative .. traditional medicine has been blocked by. What we know how it
was done and the reason it was done. But in places like in China, which you have both,
they call it western medicine or traditional medicine. And medicines are not as effective
as they were a hundred years ago. We discussed this before in some of the teachings.
Because the farmers have added so much chemicals that the composition has changed
and the field strength has moved up to another strength. So it doesn't do what it used to
do, because your amino acid, your body was used to it. Because majority of the
traditional medicines comes from the same area that people live. So they, they got what
they were short from the ground. Within 100 kilometers, within 50 kilometers, that's all it
was. Now there's we take things from Africa into Asia and everywhere else. And we
create more problems by just moving foods around.

The composition of the foods are enormous now. And with it are new diseases, new
conditions, new emotions. We used to be traditionally oranges for winter near Christmas.
We had nectarine or what you call it, ??, whatever you call it, and then you have
watermelon season. Now you get a watermelon 12 months a year, 24 hours a day. (3:02)
You get oranges, doesn't matter summer, winter, whatever, our body, our emotions have
changed. Our expectation has changed. And this creates different field energies and the
new material in genetic, in a modified, releases totally different energy than the fruit with
normal. As we were talking before. It's crazy, absolutely crazy, that nowadays they
charge us for bio (organic), whatever, natural products, and (if) we go to a village, we go
to Africa, there is, they live on bio and they don't pay three, four times more than what
we do. And there's no guarantee, just the bag says (it's) bio (organic), you don't know if it
is actually bio. For what the villages live in the remote places, poor people live off the
land, we pay three times more to eat what they eat. And when you eat in the villages in
districts, you actually eat from what comes from the land, the food is totally different
taste. It has a different texture, because there is a modification. Even they have
modification, modified crops. You taste the difference. And so we absorb different
energies.

In Chinese herbal, we had a long discussion, we signed a contract with Chinese

traditional medicine university in Beijing, just before Corona, (3:04) and in the
discussions with them and everything else, I always told them, I don't accept your work. I
don't accept to test your herbs, or your whatever you use. We, you have mixed so much
in it. I want, that was ??, to find a traditional remote, what you call it, vegetation, and
then we cultivate it through plasma technology, that there is no chemical. And then what
we will see will be the glory time of the Chinese medicine, what it used to be. Because
there is no modification, there is no genetic change, and there is no, what you call,
herbicide, pesticide, and the rest of it. And that's the reason.

We have changed by time, by cultural changes and mixing together to this point and our
body hasn't moved (evolved) with it yet. Some cases does, some cases don't. When I
came to Europe exactly nearly 50 years ago, if you wanted lentils in England it was not
heard of, people didn't know what it was. If I asked for a chickpeas I had to go in a
remote place away, or to Indian shop somewhere, they were on somewhere, to buy
lentils, because it wasn't there. And paprika and aubergines (eggplants).and these things
were something luxurious for foreigners. (3:06) And now in every shop you see them,
people like hummus, and people like couscous and the other thing, and we have mixed
these and our body is not ready for it. And on top of it we've modified the genes to suit
us. You get a bag of orange and squeeze oranges out of it. You get not a single, not a
single pit out of it, there is not a single seed there. How could it be, how did they
regenerate it, if there is no stone, there is no seed in our food? Because then nobody can
copy, so they control you.

And this is what I said, what you've seen, the unit we just shown, is the beginning of that
change. And I wanted to see how many of you who come in touch with this, and you can
trigger it the right way, stop eating because you feel don't need, because you took the
energy. That's all it is, we transfer energy by food. Now, these units you've seen are the
beginning of that cycle. See what happened with your cramps. See what happened with
your emotion, see what people talk about you, is changed. How come it didn't change
before you buy the unit? How come you didn't stop eating because of it? See how much
your addictions goes. Chocolate, whatever. Write down and report it back to the people in
the session, and we get the feedback, and we know how much we do.

Do we have to produce very soon, a vegetarian version, a vegan version and a meat
version? Yes, it's on the card. (3:08) Would you invite your friends for dinner and give
each one of them one of these systems, and they sit in front of it and say, "We have a
chicken and chips." And they all have chicken and chips, because you created the
intention of Emotion, the system sees and they accept, and so we have... "I want my chips
without salt," and as the Chinese take-away says in England, "Do you want a "sore
finger," because they can't say (pronounce) 'salt and vinegar.' So, that change we
promised you, it has started creeping in. And this new system is one of them. It's for you
to know yourself and to see what you need. And report back to us. And the ones who say,
"I don't feel anything." I have to say, "I don't feel anything." otherwise I have to accept
the change in me.

Any other question?

Q: … Can you go deeper on the layer of the skin and the neutron proton and electron
please?

K- There is no going deeper, there's similarity. They're similar to each other. Because the
inner side gets energy from the Soul, it gets from internal energies. It's different than
what is outside, but outside takes different strength of energy. (3:10) In a way, as much
as we take, the environment needs from us to give, because it's short of. It's not that we
throw everything out, environment has to have a need for what we want to give, that we
can take. And it's the same in primarily where the strongest sits is the center of the
energy, but at what field strength?

Q: … Do you target energy by bringing attention to the part?

K- Yes, it's one of the ways done for centuries and decades. The Pain Pens you have, if
you understand how to use it, you can not just use it for pain, is for repairs, for upgrading.
But, we always look at what we need, we don't look at what we can give to.

Any other question?

Q: … Using the unit CMR Soul Connect, is it possible to communicate interactively with
the fetus in the womb of a pregnant woman?

K- I stay out of this.

Q: … And can this unit use one Headset for me and another Headset for multiple people
to use? (3:12)

K- As long as you don't give your Headset to anybody else, keep to yours, you can do
anything, because then you can communicate with them. And you have to tell them
somebody else has used it.

Q: … Mr. Keshe, make sure you elevate your Soul more than anyone else, so that no one
else can play hanky panky and use the Creator's technology for power and greed. I'm sure
that's how the Creator would want it.

K- I don't know. We don't play hanky panky. But let's see what comes up and how things
take shape.

For those of you who join us tomorrow please be on time because if you miss your slot
we cannot allocate you, because there are so many people on the queue. And having
multiple systems, it's very hard to do. But please, be on time. We start, we're there, and
we disconnect, because it's, you get about 15 minutes window. And as usual, we send a
picture of your, what I call movement, and this time we have two pieces. The right side,
which is the single figure, is the configuration of your Central Energy. And the one on the
left is your physical dimension, then the STP. It's more detailed this time. It's much
interesting to see how much the lines expand, how much the distances between the lines,
which way you're taking energy. Are you taking energy from left to right or right to left?
And the rest of it.

And those of you who are with us next week, next Friday, (3:14) please make sure you
have the material with you because it's very important and we try to interact with you in a
different way, much deeper than before.

Any other question?

R: No. We're done for now. Thank you very much.

K- Yeah, thank you very much. I'll see you hopefully next Thursday.
577 KSW – February 13, 2025

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