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Military Justice Establishment Insights

Gen. Ansell frequently criticized and debated Gen. Crowder's views on military justice and General Order 7. This created ongoing controversy in the office until March 1918. When Gen. Ansell was made acting Judge Advocate General in November 1917, it led to disruption and confusion in the office as procedures had to be reworked under Col. Mayes' new views. Establishing a branch of the Judge Advocate General's office in France through General Order No. 7 in 1918 was meant to improve legal support for American forces serving overseas.
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Military Justice Establishment Insights

Gen. Ansell frequently criticized and debated Gen. Crowder's views on military justice and General Order 7. This created ongoing controversy in the office until March 1918. When Gen. Ansell was made acting Judge Advocate General in November 1917, it led to disruption and confusion in the office as procedures had to be reworked under Col. Mayes' new views. Establishing a branch of the Judge Advocate General's office in France through General Order No. 7 in 1918 was meant to improve legal support for American forces serving overseas.
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816 ESTABLISHMENT OF MILITARY JUSTICE .

I can not say this with reference to Gen Ansell, because, as I say, wheneve r
a case came up involving an application of General Order 7, he would call m e
into his office and rehash the whole controversy time and time again . He woul d
defend his views and criticize the views which Gen . Crowder had adopted, and
it was an unending controversy until some time in, perhaps, March, 1918, whe n
it reached a sort of climax and Gen . Ansell and I had some discussion abou t
the matter, and he told me he was tired of hearing my views on the matter ,
and I said I was only answering his own questions ; and after that he never
discussed ally of his opinions with me, but frequently thereafter he discusse d
them with Col. Clarke, my senior assistant .
Q. I am speaking as to whether or not there were any criticisms of a persona l
nature about the office of such character that they would create or tend to creat e
discord in the office ; interfere with cooperation and teamwork?A. Well, I
will answer that question byI don't think there was . I think Gen. Ansell
criticized Gen . Crowder for wanting to hang on to the office of Judge Advocat e
Generalas he termed itbut that was a criticism which, so far as I know ,
was expressed only to myself and to two or three other officers .
Q . Have you any knowledge relative to the procedure of Gen . Ansell i n
securing the issuance of the order relieving Gen . Crowder and appointing him .
I speak now of anything beyond the memoranda which are of official record?
A. Yes, sir ; I have. Gen . Ansell consulted me before asking Gen . Crowder i n
writing to concur with him in a request that he (Gen . Ansell) be designated
in orders as Acting Judge Advocate General . He showed me before he sub-
mitted it, and read to me a memorandum which he was sending to Gen .
Crowder, in which this request was embodied, and a day or two later he showe d
me and discussed with me Gen . Crowder's reply . Gen . Ausell was very much
disappointed and seemed a little bitter over the fact that Gen . Crowder had
refused to join him in that request. I do not know what Gen . Ansell did after
that to secure the issuance of the order, inasmuch as he did not thereafter sho w
me or consult with me about its issuance . I only know what I have stated ;
that he proposed first to get Gen . Crowder ' s concurrence, and that he failed
to get that. What he did after that I am unable to state .
Q . The order relieving Gen . Crowder and appointing Gen . Ansell is dated
November 8, and according to the records a copy of that was delivered t o
Gen . Ansell on that date, or possibly the following day .
The memorandum review of the Texas mutineer cases, as I recall it, war s
dated October 30 . This case was submitted or received in the office of th e
Chief of Staff on the 8th, the date of the issuance of the order and eight day s
later than the date of the memorandum . Has this any significance so far a s
your knowledge gaes?A . I don't know that it has any. My recollection of the
delay in submitting the memorandum in the mutiny case was due to the fac t
that after it was prepared it was held up with the idea that it would go at the
time that this supporting brief that Gen . Ansell prepared was submitted .
Whether it had any relation to the order designating Gen . Ansell as Acting
Judge Advocate General I am not prepared to state .
Q. During the period that you were in the office after November, 1917, di d
you observe any bad effects upon the morale or upon the efficiency of the offic e
resulting from this controversy?A . I do not think it did so long as I was
in charge of the disciplinary division . Upon my relief from the disciplinar y
division that whole office went to pieces for a time, in that nobody knew wher e
he was at or what action to take, and the whole procedure was made ove r
again under the views of Col . Mayes, and there was very much disorganizatio n
and very much confusion . I don't think it affected the morale of the offic e
particularly, because all the officers were anxious to serve efficiently .
Q . What officers who were on duty in the office at the time of that chang e
would be cognizant of the changed conditions?A . The officers who were there
could tell more than anyone else . Reedy and Millar were there. Col . Clarke
continued in the office while I was on a trip of inspection during the time th e
change was inaugurated, and could tell of the upset condition in the office whic h
resulted .
Recall of Col . E. G . Davis .
Q. State the circumstances which led to the establishment in France of a
branch of the Judge Advocate General ' s office.A. The branch office of th e
Judge Advocate General in France was established by General Order No . 7 ,
War Department, 1918 . Some time prior to the publishing of this order th e
establishment of a branch office in France had been suggested . If I remember

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