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Now, I will take your interview. For my topic. I have to record this.

Because sometimes we do not remember all the points. Yes, yes, yes. We do not receive all the
points you say.

Sometimes we miss them. We cannot get the data accurately. That is why we are recording.

Okay, sure, sure. I do not have any problem. You can record.

No issue. Okay. And... I cannot say some rules for this.

But some conditions... I mean... The basic conditions are like the rules. That is... Sometimes...
Like... Whenever you feel... If you feel not... If you are not feeling comfortable. So... You can say
that you do not feel comfortable.

Okay, okay. Okay, okay. No problem.

Okay. Thank you for informing this. Okay.

Actually, I have to say thanks for accepting this proposal. So, first... Thank you. Give me a
second.

I will open. Sure, sure. Interview questions.

Yes. So, first... If you want to know... First... If you are a first generation learner, you would know.
I mean... In our home... I am interested to take this topic because... I am also a first generation
learner in my home.

So, in every stage... After 10th... After 12th... Even if we want to do a degree... Even if we want to
do PG after that... We do not have many opportunities. And... If you see today... The phone is a
modern perspective for us. Like... The phone came today or tomorrow.

After corona, if we do online classes... Every person has a phone, right? Before that, we do not
have a phone. I mean... Phones... Not everyone has it. But not everyone has it.

Not everyone has it. Not everyone has it. But... We have small mobile phones.

Keypad phones. Yes. Small mobile phones.

Even if we do not have Android... Yes. Now, I am a first generation learner in my home. Suppose,
you think... What is the result for you on a specific date? That is... We have to go to the shop.
When we do not have access... We look at the phone. Today's work is done online. Then... First
generation learner... How he used to know that? And... After 10th... We have... Like our
Telangana... Andhra Pradesh and Telangana states... We know only one thing.

After 10th... Inter or Polytechnic. And... Many people do not even know this. The only thing I know
is... Here... One girl said... Andhra girl... That girl... She did Fisheries... Diploma... 10th... So, we
have... Information is very limited... If someone tells our relatives... Mostly, what we do is... In the
class... We are taught only this much... In the class... Only one thing is... If you do not pass 10th...
How will you join MPC? How will you join BIPC? And... In that also... Coming from the CSE
background... You... What do they say? They see easily... What are you doing CSE? Do not you
know Maths? Are you first in your family? Did not anyone tell you? To be an engineer... To
become a doctor... In that case... What will happen to us is... Data... Means... We will not have an
idea... And... Our family... Background... We will not be able to tell... We will not be able to tell...
So, I... Found the process... Why I am telling all this is that... To get an idea... To give an idea...
Like... What is my research about? Okay... I got it... I got your point... We can start the
discussion... Okay... Can you share your background? What is your background? Family
background... What exactly you want? Means... My family background... In the sense... How
many people are there in my house? What do they do? Like this... Family background... Is like...
You... Means... What do your parents do? How far did you study? Not that you have a family...
But... You have a younger sister... Do you have a younger brother? Or... Do you have a brother
to guide you? Or... Okay... Okay... So... When it comes to my situation... We are a nuclear
family... In that... Only mother, father... Me and my brother... That's it... For guidance... My
grandfather... Means... My mother's father... He used to talk sometimes... When I was young... To
him... He is a little educated person... But... Mother, father... All of them are very less... Means...
My mother studied intermediate... My father studied 10th... That's it... So... In that way... I came to
higher education... First... In my family... So... How did you study? What is he doing now? Who?
Your grandfather... My grandfather came... Graduated... In those days... [Link]., B.J.T... He... He
did not even graduate... He became a government teacher... Before graduation... At that time...
There were very few people studying... He was born in 1947... In the 60s... When he was in the
20s... He got a government job... So... At that time... There were very few people studying... So...
He gave it... He gave the intermediate placement... After that... In the 80s... That is... After his 20
years of service... The government brought a rule... What is it... He should have a [Link]... And...
He should have a graduation... He said... So... At that time... Without doing anything...
Graduated... He did [Link]... That's it... That is... To save the job... He studied... But... He too... He
studied very little... Okay... So... Then... My father came... Farmer... No big... There is nothing like
property... There is only one land... The only thing he got... He is a farmer... What business does
he do? A little... Cotton business... Because we are in Adilabad... There... Cotton grows well...
So... He does cotton business... Then... My mother studied a little... She... I wanted to do a
degree... But... Family members saw it as a joke... They did not allow her to do a degree... So... If
you look at it that way... Joke means... Do girls need a degree? Do girls need to study till inter? Is
that more? If you do a degree now... You have to get married... Then... Like that... Their own
brother... He only did a degree... That is... My uncle... He only did a degree... But... He did not
allow my mother... My mother... He removed the application form... If required... Okay... Okay...
Like that... So... After that... I got married directly... Hmm... So... Like that... As you said... There
is no one big to give me guidance... Every step I took... My own step... In one place... My mother
gave me guidance... After 10th... Then... You like maths... You like physics... You like chemistry...
You do not have much interest in biology... That is... You do not have engineering voice... You
have not become a doctor... Then you do one thing... You take PHD... In that... Commerce...
Economics... Physics... It will be simple for you... It will be easy for you... You will get it too...
Because... Since my childhood... I have been doing social studies... I will do basic maths...
According to my mother's suggestion... I took PHD... Hmm... So... That is... That is... My mother's
decision... After that... What to do after CEC... That is my decision... Okay... So... Now... You...
C... That is... They did not tell... In CEC also... There is a person called CA... Yes... CA course...
Basic maths... They started with... Because I did it too... CA means... Basic... We have
commerce... Basic... What to say... Logical... Logical mathematics... There are... Transactions...
Yes... Hmm... So then... Like... Didn't your mother tell you... Ah... There is a course called CA...
Aha... So... They actually... CA... There is such a course... There are such positions... There is a
job there... I don't know... Actually... With what intention... They told me... CA... About CEC... That
is... They... While doing school education... In the 1990s... In the 80s... At that time... Ah... For
engineers... For doctors... There is no big value... At that time... In India... Engineering colleges
are not that big... And... Medical colleges are not that big... Government has run it... There would
be only one in the state... He said... If anyone wants to become... If you want to become in it...
Then you have to go out... They... The only thing they know is... If you do [Link]... In the same
city... Where we are staying... In the same city... There will be many shops... There will be many
factories... There will be many... Economic activities... There will be places... Hmm... There... To
see their accounts... Tally... Such... Softwares can be used... Their accounts... Can be
maintained... Bookkeeping can be done... There... We can do some job... He said... From the
first... In the same perspective... They asked me to TC... They have no idea about CA...
Actually... Even now... I know... They do not have... I think... They do not even know what CA is...
Hmm... The only thing they thought is... If you do [Link] or [Link]... Then... Again... You can
become a lecturer in a degree college... Otherwise... Any factory... Some clothes... Clothing
shop... Shop... Such big places... There will be... High economic activities... Market yard...
There... To calculate... You can work as an accountant... That is their meaning... That's it... Ok...
Ok... Ok... Ok... So... You know what 10th is... So... Yes... Tell me again... I did not hear... After
10th... What to do after 10th... You know that... Normally... Yes... Yes... Yes... Yes... Yes... Yes...
Yes... Yes... Yes... Yes... Yes... Yes... Yes... Yes... Yes... Yes... Yes... Ok... Yes... And we can't
afford that much money.

This is my prior understanding. I already knew about this. How did you know about this? So, what
I felt is that, when I was studying, in school life, for uniforms, for books, for seers, or for some
event, or for a picnic, or for something else, there was some expense, some random thing,
whatever it was, there was a big fight at home.

Whatever it was, whatever I wanted, there was a big fight. So, at one point, even if my uniform
didn't suit me, I wore the same uniform and left. That's it.

I didn't ask for a new one. I didn't ask for a new one. So, that I understood.

Now, I don't have to continue my education Now, I don't have to spend a lot of money. Because, I
have seen my friends, after passing 10th, after passing 10th, they went to colleges like Narayana
Chaitanya, and did their M.P.C. In those days, they had to spend 2-2 lakhs per year. So, because
I knew that I couldn't afford it, I took a small course and completed it.

In total, I spent around 10,000. Okay. So, like you just said, So, you are doing When you were
doing P.G., how did you come to know that you have to do P.G. in this course? When I was in my
graduation, here at Osmania University, a Geography teacher came to me and asked me some
random questions.

He asked me in the daily classes. Generally, classes are asked, right? Sorry for interrupting. Your
10th class was like that.

In 12th class, you have to do your degree. Normally, you do it in Osmania University, right? Yes.
So, one day, I got my 1st year result.

Inter-1st year result. I don't know. I was shocked.

I got a District Topper. So, out of 500 marks, I got 461. It was a big celebration moment for my
college.

When I came, after 7 years, my college was District 1st again. Till then, I came to other colleges.
That's when I came to know that District 1st will be like this.

So, I came to Top in my 2nd year also. At that time, I had a good Sir. He used to teach Civics.

He told me that I have a good idea for Civics. You will have an idea for History too. You can write
it easily.

He told me to do one thing. He told me to try for Civil Services. Till then, I knew about the
Collectorate.

Because, Civics is not good. I studied only Civics. Local Administration, District Magistrate, all
these are part of syllabus.

So, I knew what to do. I saw it in the syllabus. But, there was no special interest.

I sat at home for a day. I got my 2nd year results. I passed in District 1st.
It was good. My mother asked me what I will do next. I told her that I don't have any plans.

I told her that I don't have any idea. So, my mother saw my scores. She told me that there are so
many planets.

She told me that it will be good if I do Civics. She asked me where I will do it. I told her that I don't
have any plans.

I don't have any idea. So, my mother told me that we will do it together. We both studied in the
computer room.

We got internet connection when we got broadband. So, we searched in Chrome. We found a
website.

It was Civil Services Academy. They started as a college. They give coaching for Civil Services.

They also take degree classes. They charged 1.5 lakhs per year. My mother told me that she
can't afford it.

She told me to try it. She saw my results. I got good top marks in 1st and 2nd year.

She told me to try it. She told me that she will arrange money. I am sorry for interrupting.

It is a big thing to have a computer in your house. How do you feel about it? Actually, it is a tragic
and funny story. Generally, people buy a computer.

We got a computer in our house because of a big family story. Once, my uncle bought a
computer with his degree certificate. After he got married, his wife who is my aunt was very strict.

My grandparents were very strict. My grandparents. They couldn't bear it.

So, they came to our house. We went to their house. We stayed in their house.

My mother didn't say anything. She told us that they are our relatives. They stayed in our house
for 6 months.

When they stayed in our house, they used to eat and stay with us. They used to stay well in 1st
and 2nd month. After 3-4 months, we came to know that my grandfather will get a pension.

He is a retired government employee. He used to get a pension every month. I think he used to
get a pension from 50,000 to 70,000.

My mother-in-law wanted to get a pension from my uncle. She wanted to get all the money from
my uncle. My mother-in-law was very strict.

She used to say to my uncle to get the money. My uncle used to ask my grandfather to give the
money. He used to ask to give the money.

He used to ask to give the money. My mother-in-law was very upset. She used to go to her in-
laws' house for some reason.

She used to go to her in-laws' house for some reason. After doing all this, he also got tired and
came here. So what happened here is that they did not eat in our house for 6 months.

After that, my grandfather also did not use that pension money for the house. He did not use it for
our house. As my father brought it, all of them spent it.

Even though it was difficult for us, we also enjoyed and said okay. We did not say much. After all,
he is my grandfather.

He is my grandmother. I do not know what my mother felt. Suddenly, he came and apologized to
everyone.

He said that everything will be fine now. He said that we should go back. So, both of them took
the old man and left.

We also thought that it would be good if everything was fine. We did not get anything. We thought
and left.

After one week, he came again suddenly. There was a table and an all-in-one PC. There was no
separate CPU.

There was a small CPU behind the same screen. So, he brought the necessary equipment and
kept it at home. We do not know why he did that.

After that, I came to know. What he felt is that they have been here for so many days. They are
here.

They have taken care of them. So, they should be compensated. They are already in a kind of
poverty.

Again, such a big burden on them. They have to pay extra. They do not have money.

They do not have money. It is good to give money. It gives a feeling of being in a lodge.

It is good for us to take it. My mother also said that it would be better if you take it. You have a
computer.

You can study further. Let it be. Give it.

We will take it. One minute. Sorry.

You can go now. So, you got a computer like that. Yes, sir.

I got a computer like that. After that, I did not use the internet for a year. I did not even have an
idea.

I said that there is no internet. Then, a friend of mine, a family friend, He told me that there is a
dongle. It is like a pen drive.

You can use the internet by inserting a sim card in it. I used to use Vodafone internet for a year. It
was very costly.

I used to use it only when I needed it. Even that did not work well in my life. I learned how to use
the internet.

Then, another friend helped me. He told me that I can insert a sim card in Vodafone. He unlocked
the dongle for me.

I used to insert a sim card in it. Then, I used to get cheap internet. I think it was Uninar or Telinar.

I used to use that. After that, when broadband came, I closed all those things. I took broadband
wire internet.

Then, for the first time, A fully functional, best internet came to my computer. That is how I came
to know about education. So, you got a computer like that.

Okay. You got a website to do your degree. Yes.

Hello. Yes, tell me. You got a website for your degree.

Yes. After my degree, I came to Osmania University. There was a tie-up for the campus.

We learned about civil services. How to write prelims, main sets, and how to do training. After
doing all that, How did you do the application? The application is also a big story.

So, what happened after that is, I got a system like that for the first time. I got Degree Online
Services of Telangana for the first time. That was the start of the same year.

DOST. That was the first time. It started from my batch.

Before that, I used to go to the college and fill the form. The college would tie-up with the
university and fill the form. They would give the forms.

But, What happened after that is, The counselling process started. You have to apply for the fees.
You have to pay the fees.
You have to pay 150 or 200. After that, You have to read the truth in the application process. You
have to verify the marks.

They assign colleges based on the marks. We have to select the college in advance. We thought
of doing all these But, We don't have Meseva access.

It was compulsory Meseva at that time. Now, we can do it online. But, It was compulsory Meseva
at that time.

You have to pay from Meseva. Because, it was the first time. At that time, There was no need to
use the computer.

It was only for browsing. There were no online work. Online work started after COVID.

Before that, Telangana was only under Meseva. So, We submitted all the documents to Meseva.
They didn't take any money.

They did everything. They told us that, They told us that, When you fill the DOS form, You have
to put our college in the preference. You don't have to put anything else.

We will take your application ID. We will proceed according to that. We will take care of our
college.

We will take care of everything else. So, We submitted all the documents. We submitted all the
documents.

We told them. They took care of the college. They took care of the course.

But, there was a problem. That was the reason for me to do this. The problem was that, I didn't
give importance.

I gave only one option. I gave History, Economics and Political Science. Because, I was
interested in History.

When I studied Economics in CEC, I used to get good scores in Economics. Civic and Political
Science are the same. Civic means Constitution.

Political Science is different. Because, I was interested in Civic and Economics, I gave both.
Because, I was interested in History, I gave HEPS.

I gave only one option. But, I don't know whether it was fortunate or unfortunate. In the entire
college, there was a person with the same name.

There was another Shiva. He gave HPE. History, Public Administration and Geography.
He wanted to do Geography. I wanted to do Political Science. The person who was the operator,
he was the College Management.

He got confused. I was supposed to shift to a different degree next year. I was supposed to delay
my degree by one year.

I was not able to do anything then. I thought it was fine. I did not want to delay it further.

I went and sat in the geography class for the first day. My first class was geography class. My
assistant was a lecturer.

She was not a full-time lecturer. She was an assistant to the lecturer. She took the first class.

She was around 25-26 years old. She was teaching for the first time. I liked the geography that
she was teaching.

When I heard about geography for the first time, I understood that there is a science in it. There is
a subject in it. It is an interesting subject.

I came to know about it then. I liked it then. I started listening to it.

I came to know about public administration. I opted for political science. Political science and
public administration are not the same.

They are completely different. I heard about public administration for the first time. My teacher is
a lecturer in public administration.

She is also a good person. He is also an experienced person. He wrote the mains in public
administration.

He went to the interview. I felt that I will get a good quality education. History is common to
everyone.

I studied history well. When I came to the final year, four of my lecturers changed. I don't know
why they changed.

There is never a single lecturer for geography. There are always changes in geography. There
are always changes in the semester.

When I came to the final semester, there was a lecturer from Odisha. He was an assistant
professor at Asmania University. For some reason, he got suspended there.

He got suspended due to some conflict. He was a good person. He used to teach in private
colleges.
He is still teaching there. When he came to our class, there were about 40 of us in our class. I
was 26 years old.

We were 40 students. None of us understood what he was saying. I was the only one who
understood.

I was the only one who understood. So, he asked me. He asked me to answer questions.

He asked me to answer tough questions. We don't have those in our textbooks. We don't have
those in our syllabus.

I learned it from a library. There are many books in that library. Especially, geography.

When I was the director of our institution, he was an optional geography teacher. He loved
geography. He used to keep books and geography there.

I used to like geography in Charkila. I got extra knowledge So, I asked him to give me good
answers to those questions. Then he got stunned.

If you are grasping so fast that you are not in the syllabus, then you definitely have a good job in
geography. You definitely do your masters in geography in this field tomorrow morning. You will
get a job at any time, but it will not go to waste.

So, I gave him the advice. I told him that I want to be in the syllabus. He told me that I should first
try in the civils.

Then he told me to keep a side by side option. Because there is a lot of competition in civils.
Maybe if you do not come, you will have a career.

Otherwise, you will not have anything. Because again, I have studied at the end of the day.
Again, I have studied at the end of the day.

If you have a certificate, you will have a bachelor of arts. Nothing else will change. So, he told me
a logic.

He told me that if I do this in geography, I will definitely get a job in geoinformatics. Then he told
me a point. When it comes to masters, it does not come under MA.

It becomes MSC. So, it will be like you have gone from arts to science. You will get more scope in
the next morning's job.

I did it here in private. So, if you come up with an option like this, then it is okay. Again, the same
thing.

I turned on the internet. I asked him what to do first. He told me to try and find geoinformatics.
He told me that there is a subject called geoinformatics. If you do that, you will have a scope in
the future. This is what he said.

So, I just grabbed those two words and searched on the internet. How many colleges are there in
geoinformatics? Where will it be? So, when I searched all this, I came to know that there are
many central universities in all India. This subject is in two universities.

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