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A Guide to German Flying Discs
of the Second World War
CHAPTER TWO: RELIABLE SOURCES
Much has recently been written concerning German flying discs. To the
best of my knowledge, no single source has all theanswers. To piece this
puzzle together information from varioussources must be used. Of course,
some sources are better than others. Categories of sources, in a
somewhat descending order of reliability are:
1. Those actually involved with these projects.
2. Witnesses of flying saucers who had prior knowledge that the sighting
was of a German saucer as opposed to an unidentified flying object.
3. Those who at the time had good reason to know of Germans aucers.
4. Third-party intelligence sources which verify claims made by the
higher categories above.
5. Researchers who have interviewed principals involved in German saucer
research.
6. Studies or scientific papers published by individuals identified
Sources without names are not as good as sources with names.
Information, data, or pictures without a "chain of evidence" linking
them to the event are not as good as those with proper documentation.
After almost sixty years, nothing is going to be perfect. These
categories are not meant to be absolute. Some sources fit into multiple
categories. Some reports have value even though they are not rigorous
simply because they were later corroborated by other sources.
When reading allegedly factual statements, the reader should always be
looking for the source documentation for these statements. A writer's
opinion or interpretation may be valuable but it should always be made
clear which is who.
Examples of the first category are those who worked on German saucer
projects:
Among these is Rudolf Schriever. Schriever was involved in a German
saucers project which sometimes bears his name. As a source of
information, he wrote an article on German saucers for the very
respected Der Spiegel magazine (1).
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Likewise, Joseph Andreas Epp was a self-admitted consultant for both the
Schriever-Habermohl project at Prag and the Mietheproject in Dresden and
Breslau. Mr. Epp wrote to me personally (2) and has written several
articles and a book about German saucers before he died in 1997 (3).
An example of a witness who had prior knowledge of German saucers would
be Georg Klein. Klein was an engineer, an eyewitness to a saucer lift-
off on February 14, 1945. He was also Special Commissioner in the
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Ministry of Arms Production who oversaw both the Schriever-Habermohl and
Miethe-Belluzzo projects for Albert Speer. Mr. Klein has written some
newspaper articles about these facts such as his article in Welt am
Stonntag, titled "Erste"Flugscheibe" flog 1945 in Prag" (The First
Flying Disc flew in Prague in 1945)(4) . Other newspaper references of
Mr. Klein will be mentioned. He has also written under the pen-name of
Georg Sautier.
Another example would be the unnamed eyewitness provided by researcher
Horst Schuppmann and first reported in Karl-Heinz Zunneck's book
Geheimtechnoloaien. Wunderwaffen Und Irdischen Facetten Des UFO-
Phaenomens (Secret Technology, Wonder-weapons and the Terrestrial Facts
of the UFO Phenomenon). In this report the informant relates a wartime
experience in which he witnessed several small flying saucers in a
hangar (5).
George Lusar is an example of a source falling under category three.
Lusar worked for the German Patent Office during World War Two. He saw
many secret patents as they came into his office. After the War he wrote
a book and some articles concerning this technology which was taken by
the Allies (6).
Likewise, Italian engineer Renato Vesco worked with Germans while at a
secret division of Fiat housed in an underground facility on Lake Garda,
right in the middle of the proposed [Link] the war, Vesco
also researched British Intelligence [Link] data was voluminous. Of
course, Vesco knew what to look for based upon what he had learned while
working in a secret Axis underground facility. Vesco is an example of
category three and the next one, category four.
Category four involves intelligence information obtained from
governmental sources. This information mostly comes from the very
entities who are trying to suppress this information. It should always
be suspect. It should be used only to verify information obtained from
higher sources (categories 1 through 3)or from governmental sources of
another government. For instance, information concerning flying objects
which Renato Vesco called "Fireballs" was verified using information
obtained from the U.S. government under laws forcing it to divulge some
types of information (Freedom Of Information Act) (7).
Category five would include, for instance, Callum Coats whom spent three
years with mathematician and physicist, Walter Schauberger, son of
Viktor Schauberger. Mr. Coats consequently learned a great deal of
information concerning the ideas ofViktor Schauberger. Mr. Coats is a
scientist and [Link] wrote Living Energies about the ideas of
Schauberger and his saucer models (8).
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In the same category we find Michael X. Barton, who, through a
translator, Carl F. Mayer, received information from an informant in
German, Hermann Klaas, who claimed to have actually been involved with
some of the German saucer projects. Klaas' peripheral knowledge
(category three) also seems to have extended into other aspects of
secret German research and [Link] wrote one of the earliest
books on this topic, The German Saucer Story in 1968 (9).
One unique source is Wilhelm Landig. Landig wrote three novels dealing
with the Second World War. Following the title of each novel, Landig
tells the reader that this is a "novel based on realities". The reader
is given to understand that the technology described was based on hard
fact. Landig's works contain more than cold facts, however. Landig deals
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with a large variety of topics in his books. Sometimes facts or opinions
are stated or "stories behind the story" are told. He writes,
unashamedly, from the National Socialist perspective. Landig was
obviously a Nazi and an intellectual insider. His history always
remained unclear, at least to this writer, until his recent death.
Because of his unclear background and the fact that he wrote in novel
form, there has been a reluctance to ascribe full creditability to the
statements he makes regarding the technology of the Third Reich.
This all changed in 1999 as a result of research done by Margret Chatwin
with an organization called "Informations diesnst gegen
Rechtsextremismus" (Information service against the extreme right) (10).
Coming in from this perspective, they, certainly, would not be accused
of aggrandizing Landig's career. Some details of Landig's biography are
now filled in. In that article we learn that Landig, an Austrian, took
part in the unsuccessful Vienna Putsch of 1934. Thereafter, he fled to
Germany and was inducted into the SD, the SS and the Waffen SS. There he
rose to the rank of "Oberschafuehrer". Eventually, Landig was detailed
to oversee government security concerns and given a position in the
Reichs Security Department. Landig, in this position, was assigned to
cover the security for the development of "UFOs"(11). It turns out that
Landig was not only a source but a great source concerning the
development of German saucers.
CHAPTER TWO
Reliable Sources
Sources and References
1. Der Spiegel, March 30, 1959, Article and interview of Rudolf Schriever
2. Epp, Joseph Andreas, telephone communication and personal letters
3. Epp, Joseph Andreas, 1994, Die Realitaet der Flugscheiben Ein Leben fuer eine
Idee, EFODON e. V., c/o Gernot L. Geise,Zoepfstrasse 8, D-82405 Wessobrunn,
Germany
4. Klein, Georg, in Welt Am Sontag, 4/26/53, "Erste FlugscheibeFlog 1945 in Prag
5. Zunneck, Karl-Heinz, 1998, pages 120-122
6. Lusar, Rudolf, 1960, German Secret Weapons Of The Second World War, Neville
Spearman, London
7. Headquarters, United States Strategic Air Forces In Europe, Office Of The
Director Of Intelligence, 1944, report titled:"An Evaluation Of German
Capabilities In 1945"
8. Coats, Callum, 1996, Living Energies. National Book Network, 4720 Boston Way,
Lanham, MD. 20706
9. Barton, Michael X., 1968, The German Saucer Story. Futura Press, 5949 Gregory
Ave., Los Angeles, CA. 90038
10. Chatwin, Margret, 1999, page 1, , Ahnenerbe, Ufos, Neo nazis: Wilhelm Landig,
Informationsdienst gegen Rechtsextremismus, [Link]
1/esoterik/landig/[Link]
11. ibid
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A September, 1946 Top Secret Memorandum on Ghost Rockets.
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The above photo, showing six saucers in formation, was given to Dr. J. Allen Hynek
in the early 1950s by the director of the Ondrejov Observatory in Czechoslovakia.
No details of the sighting are available, but the photo is thought to have been
taken near Prague, perhaps during WWII.
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Above: Drawings of the Project Saucer craft designed in 1941 by Rudolf Schriever,
a Luftwaffe aeronautical engineer, and his three colleagues, Habermohl, Miethe and
Bellonzo. The first prototype was flown in June 1942 and larger versions were
apparently designed and manufactured at the BMW factory near Prague, Czech
Republic.
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Above: The circular "Mucholapka" building in Poland. According to Polish Military
Historian Igor Witkowski it was used for testing saucer-type craft.
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