APPENDIX A
TRANSCRIPTION OF MOMS INTERVIEW
1. Me: So, Bunda today Im going interview you about my Great
2. grandmother
3. Sri Soepadmi. So, Im gonna ask you a couple of questions. So the first
4. question is when and where is she born?
5. Mom: She was born on December 7th
6. Me: What year?
7. Mom: 1902, I think I dont know, um- should be in Blitar, East Java
8. Me: Okay, did she move or stayed in Blitar?
9. Mom: Yes
10. Me: She stayed?
11. Mom: Yes
12. Me: So she spent her childhood in Blitar?
13. Mom: Yes
14. Me: What was her childhood like?
15. Mom: I dont have any idea about that
16. Me: Oh okay, okay then moving on to the next question, who was she
17. married to?
18. Mom: Um Imam Soetopo
19. Me: Okay, was she in a healthy marriage?
20. Mom: Its supposed so because they have nine children
21. Me: So was her husband part of the royal kingdom, or is she part of
22. The royal kingdom?
23. Mom: Both of them
24. Me: Oh both of them?
25. Mom: Yep
26. Me: How so?
27. Mom: Um- My grandma- my eyang putri Sri Soepadmi, I was heard
28. That actually she was from Mangkunegaran
29. Me: Mangkunegaran?
30. Mom: Mangkunegaran is from not from East Java, from Central Java
31. Me: Oh yeah okay, so shes not actually from32. Mom: I mean her ancestors, not her. She was born in Blitar, East Java.
33. But her ancestors is actually from Central Java and they moved to East
34. Java
35. Me: And her ancestors are part of the royal kingdom?
36. Mom: Yes
37. Me: So, was she set up by her parents?
38. Mom: Yes, that s what I heard that actually shes very smart at school
39. And She got like a scholarship from school to go to Netherlands, to
40. Dutch. But You know at that time that its not possible for women to
41. Go to school.
42. Me: So, moving on to the next question did my great grandmother had
43. any siblings?
44. Mom: Yep
45. Me: How many?
46. Mom: Um from- you know his- Her father had like three wifes
47. Me: Oh okay
48. Mom: The first wife is like a- because hes like a king, something like
49. That dont know. Um the first wife is like a queen, so shes the first
50. Born From the three children. And then from the second wife, (what
51. should I call it) selir. He got one children and then another selir
52. another one.
53. Me: Oh, so in total she has?
54. Mom: 4 siblings, but the other 2 from another mom.
55. Me: So only 4 biological siblings?
56. Mom: No, 3. No, 2! 3 Including her right
57. Me: Oh yeah okay, do you know their names?
58. Mom: No
59. Me: Okay, so moving on to the next question, do you know her
60. Favorite food or- yeah do you know her favorite food?
61. Mom: Uh, I dont really know but she likes European food and
62. chili/sambel
63. Me: Oh thats very good. So how often- did you know how often did
64. she eat it, like very often?
65. Mom: No, just regular
66. Me: Where did she usually eat it? Does she usually cook it by herself?
67. Or Buy it in a restaurant?
68. Mom: Where, when- When shes visiting us in Jakarta, woah when
69. shes visiting us then my mom cook for her
70. Me: Oh, so she liked my grandmothers dish?
71. Mom: Yup, very much.
72. Me: Oh okay, so moving on to the next question, is she well travelled?
73. Mom: Um- no no
74. Me: Do you know why?
75. Mom: Yeah because uh her husband, which is my Grandpa, see he
76. Passed away at the age of 40 something. And after that she was a
77. single parent for nine children, so its very tough
78. Me: so its very hard
79. Mom: Yeah
80. Me: so okay then thank you Mom for your time
81. Mom: Youre welcome
APPENDIX B
TRANSCRIPTION OF GRANDMAS INTERVIEW
1. Me: Okay- so, good morning oma. Today Im going to interview you
about
2. Sri Soepadmi my great grandmother. So Im going to ask- some questions
3. about her. So what was her- what was my grandmothers job?
4. Grandma: Her job? As a wife-, a prominent leader- , and mother of
5. nine children.
6. Me: Oh ooh okay
7. Me: So, she didnt have an actual job, just as a housewife?
8. Grandma: As a housewife. And what do you call her as her husbands
9. companion?
10. Me: Uuh I dont know
11. Grandma: Because she always accompanies her husband usually
12. during parties and also when her husbands meeting his boss which
13. the Dutch. She is fluent in Dutch
14. Me: Oh I see
15. Grandma: She is well educated
16. Me: Oh okay, so she was bilingual, she can speak in two languages?
17. Grandma: Yes
18. Me: So what languages did she speak?- Except dutch
19. Grandma: Dutch, French- She is the best pupil in her school
20. Me: Oh okay, so did she achieve anything significant?
21. Grandma: Yes
22. Me: Like what?
23. Grandma: Uhh, she- she has a grant to study
24. Me: Abroad?
25. Grandma: Overseas.
26. Me: Oh okay
27. Grandma: It means in the Netherlands
28. Me: Which did she pursue it or did she turned it down?
29. Grandma: Shes not allowed by her parents
30. Me: Oh, why?
31. Grandma: Because she is going away to far from the family
32. Me: Oh.
33. Grandma: and she is a girl. And at her days..
34. Me: Theyre not allowing her
35. Grandma: They are not allowed,
36. Me: Oh okay
37. Grandma: mostly girls are not allowed to go abroad alone
38. Me: Oh okay, so she was married, was she married? Yeah, I mean who
39. Was she married to?
40. Grandma: She is married to Imam Soetopo
41. Me: Okay, so they had nine kids?
42. Grandma: Nine kids yeah
43. Me: Okay, was her husband part of the royal kingdom?
44. Grandma: No- of the government.
45. Me: How bout her?
46. Grandma: no, shes just a housewife
47. Me: Okay, was she set up by her parents?
48. Grandma: Yes of course
49. Me: Ooh
50. Grandma: Because she was too young to be married, when her
51. Parents prohibited her to not to go abroad
52. Me: So just set up her?
53. Grandma: So just matchmaking, to marry her
54. Me: Was she in a healthy marriage?
55. Grandma: Yes of course, healthy and happily married
56. Me: Oh okay, so did you know what was she like?
57. Grandma: She is very smart
58. Me: Okay
59. Grandma: Her appearance is good, yeah she is nice she is beautiful.
60. Can talk- She can talk about all things because she is smart. And shes
61. very bright.
62. Me: Oh I see okay
63. Grandma: Shes very happy, because she is happily married
64. Me: Yeah with Imam Soetopo? Okay
65. Me: So was she someone respected at that time?
66. Grandma: Oh yes of course
67. Me: Okay
68. Grandma: She has many friends and she teaches them how to be a
69. Good housewife
70. Me: ooh okay
71. Grandma: Yeah
72. Me: Was she a strict parent?
73. Grandma: Of course, because she has nine childrens74. Me: Yeah its hard to75. Grandma: with 2 daughters and 7 sons.
76. Me: Woah okay, thats a lot
77. Grandma: So she has to be a strictly mother. So that her children obey
78. her
79. Me: Okay, so was she known for her edu- for her achievement?
80. Grandma: Yes of course
81. Me: Oh okay. Was she introverted or extroverted? Like82. Grandma: Shes extroverted
83. Me: Like very-?
84. Grandma: Meets people easily, she can talk with all levels
85. Me: so shes86. Grandma: Beneath her level and she can be at ease with everyone
87. Me: Oh okay so thats good
88. Me: When did she die?
89. Grandma: She died at the age of, Im not mistaken 62 ya
90. Me: Oh okay, 62 years old. How did she die?
91. Grandma: She died when she was in Jakarta, she lived in Blitar. But-
92. Me: But she moved here?
93. Grandma: No, but sometimes she came to see her children,
94. grandchildren
95. Me: Like opa?
96. Grandma: Yes. One day she is at her 3rd sons house. The night before
97. She went to the dentist
98. Me: Oh okay, for what?
99. Grandma: [Link]: Take her teeth off?
[Link]: Yes
[Link]: Oh okay
[Link]: And the last that- the last person that she spoke to is
104.a grandchild
[Link]: Oh okay
[Link]: Yes, at eleven at night. She said, Why are you late?
[Link]: So the grandchild came late?
[Link]: Yes
[Link]: Came back late?
[Link]: Eyang, why dont you sleep? I cannot sleep
[Link] I still feel the pain.
[Link]: Oh yeah after [Link]: After yeah. And then early in the morning, she used
[Link] get up early 5o clock. But until 7o clock
[Link]: Shes still asleep?
[Link]: Yeah, her room is still dark. So her son came into the
[Link] to wake her up
[Link]: Okay, but she didnt wake up.
[Link]: And then he realized that shes cold, it means she has
[Link] away 2 hours before
[Link]: Oh she has passed away like- in her sleep
[Link]: Yes in her sleep
[Link]: Oh thats really nice way to pass away
[Link]: But we guessed that when she told her grand son
[Link] she couldnt sleep. She has made up her bed, she has put
[Link] things to the right place, she is neatly combed.
[Link]: She doesnt rarely do that?
[Link]: Yeah, change her clothes and she lies still with her
[Link]
[Link]: So maybe she knows that shes dying?
[Link]: She knows yeah
[Link]: Okay [Link]: So of course we were startled, we were very
[Link].
[Link] when we realized that she doesnt suffer
[Link]: Yeah thats a good way to [Link]: Yeah
[Link]: when shes asleep
[Link]: Then we realize, Oh, its her time. To go to heaven
[Link]: Yeah, so where was she buried?
[Link]: Shes buried in Jakarta
[Link]: Oh in Jakarta.
[Link]: In Tanah Kusir
[Link]: Oh, in Tanah Kusir. So she died in her- grandsons house
[Link]..?
[Link]: In her grandsons house.
[Link]: Oh okay
[Link]: But because she came to Jakarta she used to sleep at
[Link] places
[Link]: Oh, so its her turn to go [Link]: Yes thats the turn of the 3rd son, sometimes she
[Link] at our house and then she- because she likes to read so
[Link] give her magazines, women magazines for her to read
[Link]: Oh okay okay. Did you know that she had- I mean did she
[Link] any role models? Do you know her role models? Or
[Link]: Her role model is of course her parents
[Link]: Yeah
[Link]: And her husband, because her husband is very
[Link] to her and to the family. Hes very patient because he is
[Link] and much older than her
[Link]: Hes mature.
[Link]: Yeah, mature yes.
[Link]: So, what qualities did she followed from her role models,
[Link] you can see?
[Link]: uuh.. she looks at things in a broad light
[Link]: Oh okay
[Link]: She is not like women at her age, so she can go with
[Link] flow. If her children, grandchildren talk about the situations,
[Link] so she can laugh happily with them, she understand their
[Link]. Shes easygoing.
[Link]: Okay, so like her husband?
[Link]: Like her husband
[Link]: Yeah okay, okay thank you oma for your time, thank you
[Link]: Youre welcome
APPENDIX C
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A picture of Sri Soepadmi with my grandma and grandpa along with their kids