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Link au document: Batipedia

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[Link]. Principe de pose

. . .

Dans tous les cas, le pare-vapeur est nécessaire et est toujours posé côté chaud de la paroi, derrière
le parement. L'application de la règle des 1/4 - 3/4 (1/4 maximum de la résistance thermique totale
de la paroi, entre-le pare-vapeur et le parement intérieur) est possible dans le cas d'un complément
d'isolation thermique intérieur quel que soit le climat considéré.

Dans notre case la répartition de resistance thermique avant et après le para-vapeur est la suivante:

Après para-vapeur: 0,1Rse+4,545Clima-comfort= 4.645

Avant para vapeur (côté chaude): 2,778Themoflex+3,636Laine-verre+0,05Placo+0,1Rsi = 6.564

La norma 1/4 - 3/4 n’est pas respecté car plus de la moité est place avant le para-vapeur.
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2.4.3. Mise en œuvre de l'ouvrage pare-vapeur

[Link]. Dispositions générales

La pose d'un ouvrage pare-vapeur indépendant et continu est obligatoire pour les combles perdus et les
rampants.

Si la mise en œuvre concerne deux couches d'isolant, le pare vapeur peut être entre la première et la
seconde couche d'isolant. Dans ce cas, la règle des 1/4 - 3/4 doit être respectée. Autrement dit 1/4
maximum de la résistance thermique totale de la paroi est mis en en place entre le pare-vapeur et
l'ambiance chaude.
Pages 11-12 du document DTA 20/23-516_V1 Gutex Thermoflex FR - Application combles

Dans notre case la répartition de résistance thermique avant et après le pare-vapeur est la suivante:

Entre le pare-vapeur et l’ambiance froid: 0,1Rse+4,545Clima-comfort= 4.645

Entre le pare-vapeur et l’ambiance chaude = 2,778Themoflex+4.0Laine-verre+0,05Placo+0,1Rsi = 6.928

La norma 1/4 - 3/4 n’est pas respecté car plus de la moité est place avant le para-vapeur!!
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ThermoflexApplication combles
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Les variantes d’isolation ne sont pas compatibles avec le pare-vapeur Indispensables

installé sur la maison.

Attention!
Les membranes d’étanchéité à l’air
compatibles ne sont pas des pare-
vapeurs !!!
Le coefficient Sd se situe entre 0,02
et 0,1. Elles sont complètement
perméables à la vapeur d’eau!!

Le pare-vapeur Les Indispensables

installé a un Sd moyen de 26, ce qui
le rend entre 260 et 1300 fois moins
perméable à la vapeur d’eau que les
membranes compatibles !
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Solution similaire?
Gutex propose different variantes pour installe le Themoflex. La variante plus
similaire a ce que a été installé dans la maison ci-desous

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La solution installé n’est pas similaire a aucune proposition de GUTEX

Couche Variante proposé GUTEX Installé dans la maison
1 Lattage tuiles Lattage tuiles
2 Contre-lattage Contre-lattage
3 GUTEX Ultratherm 1=3 Clima Comfort =35
4 Membrana étanchéité 2Sd=0.02-0.1 Pare-vapeur Sd=26
5 GUTEX Thermoflex GUTEX Thermoflex

6 Laine minérale existente avec Laine de verre avec papier Kraft®

placage aluminium
7 Lattage existant Lattage existant
8 Placoplâtre Placoplâtre

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: resistance à la diffusion de la vapeur d’eau
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Sd: resistance à la diffusion de la vapeur d’eau en mètres. Sd =  x epaisseur du materiel
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Entrées pour le logiciel

Text = -5 ºC

Tint = 22 ºC (hauteur du toit 5.2 mètres)

HRint = 50 % optimo santé

HRext = 80 % moyen en hiver

Lana de verre installé en 1989

λ = 0.05 on considere augmentation du
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=1

Etude realisé avec le logiciel Ubakus®

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100 % de humidité relative entre GUTEX Thermoflex et pare-vapeur

CONDENSATION !!
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ELENA Experiment
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ELENA Experiment
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 Commissioned in 2018
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Ultimate Goal Find a strategy for the assembly of both R2E converters, regarding splitting or not the global work.

Context Decision must be taken before May-2016. We are already late.

People involved J. Chanois, R. Herrero, R. Bianchi, B. Favre, purchasing officer, B. Magnin, Frichot, gnagnagna...

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